As a Mustang owner I can’t agree. Camaro looked far better from 1971 till 1992. Then it got hit with the ugly stick.

An ugly refresh at that. I mean a 911 is just refreshed. But it gets better looking most of the time.

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I think exactly the same way.

I like Mazda’s version better.

This. Or as someone else stated, higher speed limits!

Much better idea!!!!

They could always break the speed limit. But before it was fun. Now you’re way past the limit and the car is, frankly, boring. I don’t want a fast street cat I can only enjoy on the track. Now I want a quick car I can enjoy every day and a track only car. But even then I’m not so sure as a day kart racing in a Briggs…

“i just want bare-bones performance without all the bells & whistles.”

I’m with you on this. After an M car and my current Boss 302 I was looking for my next car. I drove the ZL1, a couple of 911's, the 1M and the GT350R when I realized off the track (which I had less and less time for), my Mazda 2 provided more joy day to day than any car i’d owned since the original Maxda Miata. So now…

Except it isn't. Sure it out performs the previous car. But that car was exciting in ways this car simply isn't.

But as per Clarkson it's about more than numbers, it's that something extra. The Mustang has it. The Camaro doesn't. And I wanted it to; I was at the Belle Isle reveal and was sorely let down when I first saw it. Thought it would grow on me. It didn't. It just doesn't catch the eye as it passes on the street like its…

Except the category that counts in a sports coupe, looks. This just isn't a sexy car like its predecessor nor the current Mustang.

Drive open topped on a summer night. Done. And spectacular. Also, everyone will trade their pickup, large sedan or van for your Miata for a day or two, even the ones who call it a chick car. Fact is when I owned my first and second gen Miatas I had practically unlimited access to any car or truck I needed. Pretty much…

As a guy I found Knocked Up to be a sexist and tasteless ‘bro’ movie. Was always surprised she agreed to be in it in the first place.

Neutral: What New Car Do You Want To Buy Right Now?

I want to like the newest Camaros, I really, really do. The numbers are impressive and GM’s improvements to the car are worthy of praise. But as a two door sports coupe, I find it lacking it the looks department. And on that basis i’ll wait till a refresh. Shame.

I can't star this enough.

Finally had mine as well.

You were. But many will read into it what they will, no?