They are a tough target. Pantsir and Tor generally protect the long range SAMs while moving, and then also, as you said-when they reach the position. Supposedly they can intercept things like an incoming HARM or Maverick. I kinda doubt that but nevertheless, its a potent package.

Meant WVR*

MALD

Why are you quoting ‘by fire’ as if it was something I said? Are you trying to say ‘by small arms fire’, because that’s all I said.

Nothing, or next to nothing.

True. They’re who I was talking about. Although I know some Typhoon pilots made some real off-the-wall statements. It may have been the Germans but I thought it was you guys. I’ll search a lil later.

You’ve got 24 hrs to do some research before I rip apart that absolutely ludicrous statement. I suggest searching for some Sukhoi quotes about the PAK-FAs RCS. I also suggest taking a look at the exposed frontal fan blades.

Aw, there’s one of our fanboys now.

Troll or just stupid? I’m pretty easily trolled.

Buddy, you’re always polite. You’re always gracious. You always post quality content.

There will be as Raptors either maximize their RCS or engage in BVR 3v1 duels.

What? We bent over backwards to help Russia in the 90’s. Russia was on a great path until Putin.

I hope you stick around.

You gave me a headache.

Welcome to FA comrade.

They weren’t discussing whether or not they SHOULD. They were discussing how and with what...

Are you seriously trying to compare the absolute worst of what happens in the US with fucking Daesh?

With you 100%. Also started out as an 11B.

Yeah, I dont pretend to understand British procurement and how and why they do things. Certain things just catch my eye (like axing the super capable ASW Nimrods after all of that work and money invested). Or getting rid of the Harriers prematurely (IMO). I barely have a small handle on the American process.

They’re cut from the same cloth. The difference is, CAG has been much more guarded about what they’re up to (thankfully, i’m growing increasingly disillusioned with the current crop of SEALs). Army JSOC units in general are very quiet. Neither CAG, nor DEVGRU do major hits very often without SOAR (or SWCC) providing…