Well, at least they patched them out, I guess?

Ugh. Not surprising, though. I can count the number of even slightly positive portrayals of trans people I've seen in Japanese media on one hand.

(To be fair, it's not really that much different for western media. It's just a different paradigm of awfulness.)

...did you not see the MULTIPLE POSTS I made in this thread before you even poked your head in? For Christ's sake.

Oh really? That (sadly) confirms my suspicions.

Well, I'll grant you this: it's totally possible Capcom may be trying to make the best of a bad situation and "reform" the character, so to speak.

A lot of it depends on how she's handled in those games. I admit, I haven't seen her in Street Fighter x Tekken, so I'm not really qualified to judge how they did there.

(Not…

That's an issue I'm more torn on.

There's a school of thought that says that ANY representation is better than no representation. That's not a school of thought I necessarily subscribe to.

In her original context, she's -not- playable; she's a punching bag. She also plays into a number of really ugly stereotypes about…

It...really doesn't.

Trans people were still being beaten up and killed for being trans in 1989. The bigotry wasn't any -less- ugly then.

It might have been more widely accepted, but that doesn't make it -right-. We don't look back on Jim Crow laws and say, "Oh, well, you know...those wouldn't fly TODAY, but for their…

It's still ugly, though. It doesn't -excuse- it, any more than "Birth of a Nation" gets a pass for being a "product of its time".

...holy shit, I actually agree with you on something.

Call the papers.

For some reason, my previous post seems to have been deleted (and gotten me downgraded to non-approved status?), so let me just say:

The whole Poison thing is EXTREMELY distasteful (on Capcom's part). "Hey, people might get angry if we have the main character hit a woman, but no one will get upset at beating the living…

Because beating up a trans person is -totally- better.

Yeah, screw you, Capcom.

(Heh, and apparently, expressing that opinion rather vehemently was enough to get me downgraded to non-approved status. Nice.)

Tasteless that they said, "Oh, hey, people might get upset if we have the main character beating up a woman. But hey, make her trans, because no one will get upset at beating the shit out of a trans person."

(Small note: I'm not trying to be an ass, but "transgender" is an adjective, not a noun.)

Maybe? We'll never actually know.

I can sure as hell call them out for it now, though.

That doesn't really make it any less tasteless or ugly.

Ugh, fucking Poison.

I know it was the 80s, but still...real classy move there, Capcom.

Yeah, that particular change is insulting on a number of different levels. Way to go, Capcom.

That's tough. I didn't find Amnesia all that scary, honestly, mostly because the lack of ANY conflict mechanic meant I knew that the developers wouldn't put me in a situation where there was no escape (and even if they did, there'd be a checkpoint right before it). The first time I died and restarted 30 seconds…

No, I'm not "missing your point". I didn't mention the stuff with NWN2 to dispute your characterization (in fact, I acknowledged those problems in the very same comment).

I'm not missing your point; I'm just disagreeing with some of your specific examples.

I can't really defend the bugs in Alpha Protocol. I didn't have any problems with New Vegas, but some of the crash bugs were...bad.

I really don't think KotOR 2 is their fault, though. My understand is that that's not a matter of "not being able to meet deadlines"; that's a case of "the deadline is cut short by 6…

Eh, two of those three aren't entirely their fault. Alpha Protocol admittedly had a number of bugs, and that was all on them, but...