Yeah the “hoax bomb” thing got me too. How can he be hoaxing a bomb if he is insisting again and again.. “Its a clock”

Re: Ganzler’s piece. That waitress has to be a distant relative of my mother, who plants onions squarely in the spicy category. She also includes black pepper, any herb, and certain types of lettuce.

Well equating disability and religion, was purely on a legal basis. I see now that it was inartful. But in discrimination law, both disability and religion are things that require accomodations to be explored. So I meant it mostly in that sense.

Wow. that escalated quickly.

No I dont think they need to create a job. But you have a point in that they may have tried to do that. The news story could be short on detail. If they did it would change my view. I remember a case I worked on where the person was offered many different accommodation options and they just would not take it. If this…

I see your HR professional with my EEO investigator. Maybe our careers have colored our perception, but I can tell you that this does happen at large corporations. But I will admit that usually its when a local supervisor does not follow policy or properly loop in the HR staff.

I hear this argument. And its a good one. The response to that situation though is not to fire her, but to find a better way to accomodate her. Of course there may be more to the story than we hear.

also being nominally the same religion does not mean they have the exact same beliefs.

Why? You mean besides because its the morally right and decent thing to do?

Really.no sympathy at all? If it gets to the point where her limitations are too difficult you would be okay with the company just throwing her out instead of moving her to desk job, or putting her on non-alcohol flights or moving her to baggage handling or something. please.

Why go straight to termination? look if the first attempt at accomodation proves to be too difficult, you do not just give up and throw the person out. You look for another way. they could have transferred her to a different job for goodness sake. It looks like they just gave up after the first try. Bad HR policy 101.

sigh... no. What she thinks is that she should not be fired for making a good faith effort at compromise. And she is right.

but at what point does it become a hardship on the other employees, and where do you draw the line”

Wow. you highlighted the section I was going to highlight, but for totally different reasons. I am an atheist, but you are absolutely wrong. Where you write “But choosing to worship a given god or practice a given religion does not mean that they are owed any degree of extra respect or accommodation.” I would counter…

Wow a lot more people drink on flights than I realized. Do people really shell out the money for air booze? apart from 1st class I mean. I have never done it because I felt gouged, and I never traveled with anyone who did. Inform me internet!!!

I think in fact that what you describe is exactly what happened.

I can see the gripe of getting extra work due to someone else’s accommodation, but that just means the arrangement needs to be adjusted in some way. I can bet that this resentful attitude, plus that fact that she converted, is what led to the whole fiasco. Some coworker who thought she fake converted to avoid work.

Correct she would not be... as a bartender opting out of alcohol would not be a REASONABLE accommodation. But it totally is for an FA.

In most cases of accommodation they replace the duty with something else. Like while someone else did alcohol she would be in charge of peanuts or something.

Yes its a service they provide. But if it stops the plane does not suddenly ground itself. Remember we are talking only about Alcoholic beverages here. She still gave out the normal drinks which is most people on the flight. Just on the rare occasion where someone in coach asked to buy an overpriced beer, she would…