As the owner of a manual TL (the ugly one....well, not the REALLY ugly one...the face-lifted ugly one), I would absolutely follow your manual TL articles for 1 year.

Their prices are not usually beating anything else, but the return policy, even on electronics, makes them worth much more to me. If I have a TV for 2 years and it craps out on me I can just take it back to costco (I dont even need the receipt) and they give me my money back (or exchange it)....always.

2012 TL do not. They just have a little pass-through rectangle.

I've read through all the non-grays and I can't believe that no one has mentioned why companies do this:

I can get a taco with a manual transmission in any trim. Thanks, GM, but no thanks.

I feel like this has almost nothing to do with financing vs cash and everything to do with buying used vs new.

Renault Clio RS V6

I have a similar situation (1x2.5yo, 2x9mo, 2xparents, 2xgrandparents, gear). We have a 2013 Odyssey.

Fuck me.....

I came here to say this.

I fucking loved MASK back in the day. I had the helicopter/motorcycle and my brother had the car/plane (cause he always got the better shit)...

How about the Nissan R390 road car? Only 2 frickin' cars made?!?

I could probably rig one up in this:

Amen!

My friend in high school jumped his into a flooded cranberry bog. It was submerged for more than an hour up to the door handles. We let it sit overnight and the next morning....started on the first try.

two inputs mean you can watch two different things at the same time. Our Odyssey has it, too....

You really find it amazing? The full tilt ones have a dual screen tv, power outlets, a fridge, a vacuum, wireless headphones, 2 AC units, 3 audio sources (people can listen to 3 different things at the same time), leather everything....

worked for us....till we had twins, too. Then a minivan was required.

Son of a bitch. My wife wouldn't approve the sprinter. I had that one all spec'd out, too....

I was really hoping to find a non-minivan solution. I already had the SUV picked out until I heard the dreaded t word. I have no doubt that the pilot and many others are capable for most situations. The minivan, however, has more room than anything else (besides full size vans) due to its lower floor and better access…