I don’t think conservatives see it that way at all, but then again as best I can tell they are living in a delusional alternate reality where the last 8 years of economic growth were bad, and all the instability now is somehow good, and a hundred other logical fallacies they hold dear.

OMG thatnkyou...I am saving this for all of the arguments with my Dad’s moron conservative friends. Literally every single topic ends up getting routed back to Hillary Fucking Clinton.

Just my observations but Symbolism seems to be vastly more important to conservatives, and so even though it wasn’t Obama’s bed it was a bed that he slept in and in Trump’s mind that may have counted.

As a mild germophobe I can say that for the most part sex doesn’t count for me.
Besides the peepee tape (if it is real) isn’t necessarily Trump being peed on, it might just be him peeing on the prostitutes (goes along with the narcissistic megalomania) or them all simply peeing on the bed that ‘Obama slept on’.

So the point is that given how well the V6 1LE did at LL (relative to other light cars like the 4C, Exige, and older Caymans) it’s reasonable to say that the Turbo-4 1LE will acquit itself quite well relative to other cars of the same price.

Being impossibly light would be awesome, but not a requirement, let alone…

Ehh...3rd gen’s in general are thought of as slow, so unless there is something obvious to set it apart like a rappy cam and a set of slicks sticking out in back then a fast or even quick 3rd gen will surprise a lot of people.

I’ve thought for a while now that instead of having a 4-cyl Camaro they should have made a smaller (maybe 2-seater) sports car on the Alpha chassis with the ecotec 4.
I mean the current 4-cyl and V6 Camaro’s are very competent sports cars, but they get shit all over because they are a poser version of the REAL…

Nothing wrong with an opinion. Personally I really like the current look in 1LE Trim’s, and I don’t much care for this at all.
The sad thing was I was planning on getting an SS 1LE in fall of 2019 (basically when my current car is paid for plus a few months to save).
But now I will have to either get used, or hope I can…

So...you want it to weight less than an NA Miata? Let alone less than an ND, or 265lbs less than the carbon fiber Alfa 4C, and 800lbs less than a Porsche Cayamn.
So say your assessment is stupid is a severe understatement.

The funny thing is in your ignorance you probably don’t actually realize how good the Camaro’s…

All of the reviews state the Camaro is superior to the Challenger and Mustang in pretty much all trim’s excluding the GT350R (which is only subjectively better because of the sound the engine makes).

I honestly couldn’t explain why sales don’t reflect this other than the still poor visibility which is what 5th gen…

I feel like your standards are waaay too high. Not even the Cayman is that light. The only sports car that even comes close is the 4C which is nearly 2500lbs, has 28 few horse powers, is much less practical, and costs almost exactly TWICE AS MUCH.
There aren’t really any 275+hp sub-2700lb sports cars at all anymore…

I have a large collection of 1/18th scale models, but most of them are in boxes now since we are “preparing to move” (for the last few years).

But this is a HotWheels 180SX that I custom modified to look similar to my SR swapped 240SX that I’ve had for years.

Or even more money could go to corporate embezzlement and CEO/board bonuses.
As inefficient as government is it’s primary focus isn’t profit so for many things it can end up saving a lot of money. The government is beholden to the people, unlike corporations which are beholden to investors.

To be fair Skyline GTR’s had their share of issues, but in general yes, a TVR would be a bit scary to depend on.

Well the idea is that everyone pays for it via taxes.

Pretty cool. Wherever that is safety obviously isn’t a thing.

I actually had a friend who said that. He waited a few years and gave up on Subaru and bought a Focus RS.

I agree that the current BRZ/GT86 is fun. But still more power would be more fun...particularly in areas of the country that don’t have windy roads within a short distance.

I agree so much that brand loyalty is stupid. I like whichever brand builds the best car that meets my criteria/priorities...which is pretty much in this order: enjoyable to drive (manual), fast (handling and power), balanced, reliable, and affordable (relative to performance).

Except the whole video was a pause button...so point still stands :p