This is just CYA lawyer stuff. It’s a DI motor octane is less critical than you’d imagine. The ECU is not going to let it hurt itself.

Any sources on that premium claim? It’s a modern engine, it’s not going to knock it’s going to pull boost/timing.

How about eating rear tires every 5k miles due to the absurd negative camber.

Right now diesel is 50 cents a gallon more ($1.59 vs $2.09) in Michigan. Historically if you wanted a diesel you were towing and bought a 250 or 350.

It’s a flange, like on an aftermarket turbo, so you can quickly attach measurement equipment.

It’s all marketing wank.

Having driven the 3.5 and 2.7 they have plenty of power and in my opinion tow better than any NA v8.

Average is a bad statistic. Do we have information on the distribution?

The fuel savings cost modifier is nothing but marketing wank.

I can easily get that amount of power from my 1.0l EB.

But the programming is all Chrysler, it’s still not a good feeling trans. I have one in the work fleet, it’s always the last pool car to be signed out.

In the S63 I had for a bit it was a joke, it’s a terrible lurch on restart.

Everything I’ve driven including MB C and E class and the Cayenne Turbo all restart with quite a jolt.

My back aches already, give me BMW or even VW seats!

Were these always terribly uncomfortable and too soft or were all the versions of this I sat in just blown out?

As someone who works in the Detroit auto industry I’m just happy there are reasonable American cars I actually want to buy. Going out to a GM sales meeting in a BMW does not go over well....

My W115 agrees.

I just took a weekend trip in my friends new S63 Coupe. Lovely car but the gauges are awful. They were so bad it was an honest distraction.

You lack and understanding of the the torque over time component. It’s not just a peak number it’s the integral of torque or in other words how much area under the curve. The modern engine (especially the turbocharged and to a less extent DI engines) out preform the older NA engines.

People are afraid of math so they…

My Dealer in Farmington Hills MI has always had one when I stop by.

Why would you not just buy one at normal price from somewhere else in the country? I never have understood paying local prices. It’s at most $2,000 to have a car shipped anywhere in the lower 48.