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My 80's babys. '86 Conquest TSI and a '89 Lotus Esprit turbo

Yeah the lack a continent eating German machines is disturbing. BMW got one in there, but why not a more modern one.

I'm not denying the 3 is nice. I had a friend with a wonderful 3 and I currently own a 5 (which is sort of a Super 3 hatch). 3s are great cars and they do have good seats. But you need to try something something with a longer wheelbase (which the 5 has) and meant to swallow traverse continents. Longer wheelbase cars…

Can't agree with the Mazda3 or Civic Si. Sorry but those 2 had to be put in there by folks that may have driven them great distance, but don't understand what good is.

It was about as close as you could could get to F1 tech, yet still do mass production in a shed.

Haha, here is it. 2.3 HSO (High Specific Output) Ford. It was put into the "performance" Tempo and rated at 99HP according to literature at the time. It made about 9 HP more than the standard. It was a turd. 2.3L of boat anchor. You could tell the high output verson because it has a "Ford Performance" valve cover.

Disagree.

Yes, this car should be in the list, anyone who has worked on them knows how Japanese they are. Some parts are amazing, high tech and well built, while other parts are low quality casts which hark to an industry that was bombed into the stone-age a generation before.

355 My favorite Ferrari.

I like thinking outside the box, but I don't really think this will work as right now the issue is people not caring. You will have people just put the light on all the time because they are on the phone all the time.

Yeah, comparatively the LS1 is the one to get. But the LT1 cars are cheaper and still move compared to similar priced rides. You for the savings you trade off power and get the torture of opti-spark

LT1/LS1 powered F-bodies. Face it, for cheap fast there little out there that can hang with them for the price. Yeah in stock form they roll and wobble through turns, but once the power is on, they move out.

LT1/LS1 powered F-bodies. Face it, for cheap fast there little out there that can hang with them for the price. Yeah in stock form they roll and wobble through turns, but once the power is on, they move out.

The F1 was pinned by Peter Stevens. It would interesting to know what the person with he Mclaren did on the F1. The whole car screams F1. Which isn't too odd as lot of folks have borrowed lines of that car. But I haven't heard of nor can I find much on on Matt Thomas.

Yes. I want crappy cars. I think the best racing online in Forza is Class D. I want more crap.

As someone with both, I sort of define the GT5 vs FM4 rivalry this way. FM4 is fun all the time. Basicly anything you do in Forza is 100% fun.

Not sure I like the Joss JP1's or the Hennessey's rear. Hell i dislike the stock MP4-12C rear too.

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Because racecar? Yes