Cliff8928
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Cliff8928

I would normally agree with this, especially with older systems... However, driving through the recent snow in my '11 9-5 6-speed, I'm really impressed with the whole traction management system (ABS/Stabilitrak/etc.). It allows moderate (5 MPH or so) wheelspin and appears to actually BRAKE the spinning wheel as a

Either way, it's not verizon like every older iteration of OnStar.

if you "Polestar the heck out of it" would that make it Polested?

The Quad4 was released for 1988, HO in 1989 and W41 in 1991. Essentially that design was in production for 15 years. While I'm not saying 4-valve per cylinder DOHC engines were new tech, in 1988 they weren't that common, especially in $10K cars. I would figure most buyers would've went for a V6 because either...

There isn't really all that much that is purely identical aside from some of the switchgear. If you park it next to the LaCrosse, you can definitely tell they're related though. I don't mind that as I don't have any gripe about the current LaCrosse. The one thing that I do like is that the 9-5 was available

More than likely, the main reason the LQ1 even existed was the Taurus SHO. Similar output in a competing american car, albeit the SHO had a Japanese engine. The LQ1 could've been so much better if they designed it as a proper DOHC V6 rather than retrofit DOHC cylinder heads on a pushrod block.

So, if the world had already done it, what other competing vehicles were available at a similar price point with this level of power from a NA engine?

This! The Q45 was definitely much more hoonable than it's competition!

+1 - My old 740 was the most fun winter car I ever had. It got traction when you wanted it to, but you could easily break it with your right foot. Especially with the B234F/AW72-L/4.10 it was so rev-happy and aggressively geared, yet so predictable you could drive it sideways for as long as you wanted.

I also had an Alero (2.2 Ecotec 5-speed) for just over 8 years and it was far from the worst car I've driven in the winter. And that was even with the lightest power train and wider than stock tires, albeit they were Continental DWS all-seasons which were about the best compromise.

Maybe it's just around here, but 10 year old or so Chrysler sedans seem to all but vanished. They made so many intrepid, concorde, 300M and LHS sedans yet I never see them. The junkyard was filled with them some years ago. Same for the original cloud cars. Cirrus, stratus and breeze.

I'll leave this here…

Why not...

Were there no brown turbo manual trans wagons out there?

I know what ya mean on that one. Last year I bought a new Saab. Previous to that it was a new Oldsmobile in 2004.

I almost felt sorry for the guy (supposedly a doctor from what i found in the car) that bought ours new.. Two years old and less than half MSRP. Still a great car though. The LC3 NorthStar is amazing.

Everybody ALWAYS calls it a CTS-V. Well, the non-jalops.

2.0 LNF, just like the Solstice GXP or Sky Redline (and other regional counterparts)

A friend of mine rode in a Tango at the Detroit auto show. They had a whole setup in the basement for hybrid and electric vehicles on a little course. This thing has stupid amounts of torque. No issues breaking traction.