Judging by their production woes and manufacturing problems, you say “could”, I’d say “really, really should”

Every semi comes equipped with the latest Autopilot suite, he said

Looking at the pictures(And the fact that we’re pretty sure Tesla bought 4 Freightliner Cascadia frames), I’m pretty damned sure it’s just a hastily converted and re-skinned Freightliner Cascadia.

Well, bonus point for realisim. If you’re a shitty enough driver, that’s pretty much what happens in real life, too. Just without the car.

Also in a modern car if the infotainment system goes out then a ton of settings and even A/C heat controls go with it. That’s no minor issue.

Well, that’s what you get when you make an arse of yourself.

I tend to close doors if there’s anyone around, and always close them when I’m leaving a house, but I don’t bother if I’m alone.

EXACTLY. If you’re not a front-runner sometimes it’s smart to lay back.

I hear you, but what else are they supposed to to? They have system logs of actions performed - are they supposed to just pretend that they do not exist and let it be a one-sided conversation/accusation?

I doubt they’d go quite that far - especially since if they really wanted to do that(which I’m not sure they would, despite my misgivings about how they use acquired data) it would be much, much cheaper to just add that functionality to their app.

Expected, hell, they’ve done it before. As I’ve mentioned up and down the thread, there’s more than one case where they’ve done precisely that.

it’s just a handy debug trail of what the system has been doing

Yes, obviously. Because they want the data, which means that no matter how unimportant you are, you’re important enough for them to care. If they didn’t care, they wouldn’t spend the extra money to have the system in place for gathering the data, analyzing it, and so on.

Well, if that’s the way you’re looking at it, I honestly doubt we’re going to agree regardless of if you get the point or not.

I wasn’t being intentionally obtuse, I genuinely didn’t understand why you would differentiate between someone interacting with a car and giving it commands, vs someone interacting with a car and giving it commands while driving

I’m 100% agree...if not for the fact that they’re also perfectly happy to use said data to claim publically that you’re a liar. If they’re going to use it in such a public fashion, they should show it - with ireelevant personal information edited out where possible for privacy’s sake, of course.

They dont want to be wrong so they check the logs, see the action happened via keyfob according to log and thats the end of story.

I wouldn’t be abashed to all cars having that, could you imagine the decrease in liability costs?

I say yes. They should not be able to use it in that fashion.

I see where you’re coming from, man. And I don’t blame the guys down in the depths of Tesla Automotive, who just want to make the thing they work on better - it’s hugely useful for them, and I don’t doubt they don’t want to dick people over, they just want to make a great product.