Thank you for this. I was like “Who read that NY Times piece and came away thinking that it was a glowing puff piece on her?” That was certainly not my takeaway. But, easier to write a reactive and angry response piece than get into nuance, I guess.

Right? The headline here to me smacks a lot of that Twitter thread where people went after a woman for daring to say she had had a nice morning - the one where folks were like “WELL NOT EVERYONE CAN HAVE A NICE MORNING WOW YOU SURE ARE PRIVILEGED.” It’s not like Julia said this from the seat of a private jet. People…

I’m loving these comments that show y’all clearly didn’t read (or maybe just didn’t comprehend?) this piece. 

10000000%. To Kylie’s point, sure, these women are of legal consenting age, but there is a TREMENDOUS gap in personal development and maturity between people in their 20s and just about any other adult age group. It just screams “I can’t be with a woman who has actually lived life and will call me on my BS.”

Absolutely. It’s really irritating how entertainment journalists seem absolutely allergic to any accountability. Listen, I get it, you gotta write stuff to get clicks, and it’s not like celebrities are often the most sympathetic folks of all time, but they’re still human beings who deserve some sort of privacy and IMO…

We would do better as a society if we could learn that envy is an emotion, take accountability for it, and leave it at that. So many people love to find ways to rationalize and justify things that boil down to... just being jealous. lol. 

I miss the days of Bobby Finger who managed to be funny without being downright nasty. 

Have any of the mental health issues she’s displayed (publicly at least) been any worse than those of male celebrities? Justin Beiber? Kanye West? No, and no one EVER brought up the idea of a conservatorship for those guys. 

Right? This dude really thought he did something with that comment lolll. 

LOL MY DUDE.

Technically it was both.

Absolutely one of my favorite Tik Tokers. 

My dude, not everyone in Texas is card-carrying conservative. The Beto/Cruz vote in 2018 was NEARLY 50/50. Donald Trump got 52% of the vote vs Biden’s 46% in the last election - not super close but demonstrates that *almost half* of the participating electorate does NOT agree w/ Gov. Abbott, Cruz, Trump and all their…

1000000000000%! This reminds me of Alastair Macauley criticizing the dancer who was the Sugar Plum Fairy in NYCB’s Nutcracker several years ago; he said she looked like “she had had one too many sugar plums.” Which 1) wtf dude everyone in that dance company is super thin 2) even if she didn’t have a conventional…

Heard great things about Bird Bakery but have never been! Going to go now... and yeah I have to imagine this is why she’s divorcing him AND trying to get full custody. 

Made creepy comments about his children?! No wonder Elizabeth Chambers is trying to get full custody. 

She 100% would not have a career if she didn’t have a famous dad. 

The thing is though - she may have genuinely tried, and those projects just never got greenlit. So many things - ESPECIALLY if they’re about women or underrepresented audiences - still die in “development hell.” So, her IMDB page might not show a lot of women, but there’s a lot we probably don’t know about what she’s…

I enjoy healthy debate, and understanding different points of view, but I find a couple of things tiring

Yeah exactly. When Joan and Ashley said they see it mostly used on Tik Tok by teens who are white, suburban, and wealthy, I was like “...who are they following?” Because I’ve seen it used by a lot of young people who are POC, queer, and working class - TONS who have talked about working service industry jobs and the…