BtheD19
BtheD19, Formula J treble World Champion
BtheD19

Hmm. Ford Focus, or BMW. Focus, or BMW. Gosh I just don't know.

Thought #1: More complex BMW engines? Just what we need!

Lots of plasticky stick-on bits and nothing about performance? They know their market well.

V12 and slushbox. Two items which never associate with each other, like murdered-out gator-skinned Astons and people who aren't in the NBA.

I know you guys like to play headline semantics a lot, but that's flat-out lying. You have one photo (which looks like the Toyota version) and a handful of fanciful computer renderings. That's a material difference, because if you give me a couple hours on Photoshop, I can come up with something and call it the new

The Toyota pics we've seen of the alleged production car has an awful rear end. The tail lights look like they were taken off an old Nissan sedan and slapped on the car with no regard for aesthetics.

The goofy fake diffuser thing has been driving me insane. The last ~5yrs or so, every concept car has some ridiculous faux aero posterior. And unfortunately, more and more of these things are making production as hideous, gray or black unpainted plastic. The only reason I can think of is that it saves the factory

Speakers add weight. So do wires. And amps. And mounts for all of them. Besides, it's a *stereo*, you don't need more than two.

To the question: Does it exist?

GM has certainly learned to make the pushrod V8 highly efficient, which is an amazing feat in itself. Granted, they've had 100 years to figure it out. But mostly they do that by controlling fueling and very efficient head design. Which is great. But the LS engines also carry a much larger displacement as compared

Your semantics miss the point. The exact location of the cam is less relevant than the method of actuation, which is what actually impacts tolerable engine speeds. Pushrods are a much older form of valve actuation than direct actuation.

Gullwing doors. They're a head hazard to anyone taller than a midget, impossible to close for anyone shorter than Shaq, and, well, best not to roll the car over.

I was going to say exactly the same thing. OHC is tremendously more sensible, particularly in light of modern fuel efficiency needs... yet much of Detroit persists with a valve train that is over 100 years old.

"This vehicle will be a 100% functional improvement upon the taxi. But it looks like a minivan so I hate it." - Ray Wert

Promoting still doesn't work.

That sounds realistic... and unimpressive. The price better be right.

Are you sure? 2011 base Mustang only weighs 3400lbs. I'll go on record saying that there is no way in the world that this thing comes to production at less than 2600lbs. I don't remotely believe that's possible. Heck, if it comes in at anything under 3000lbs I'll be pretty impressed. Hyundai's Genesis Coupe is

Agreed. The rear end looks like crap compared to the concept. The tail lights on the production version remind me of mid-level Nissans... which is not a good thing.

If they make the base version of this available in the high teens, and I don't see any reason why it couldn't be, they will sell tons of them. Reasonably optioned under $25k, and the high HP loaded version under $30k. They have to keep in mind that both Camaro and Mustang have a LOT of power (and pretty decent