That sounds ridiculous, awesome and terrible, all at the same time.

Haha, that is fair.

To combat the fare hoppers, I hope!

That sounds reasonable. But if you are making it more expensive for people to drive somewhere and are preferencing them to use mass transit, replacing the volume of car drivers with transit options should be goal #1 imo.

CVT’s don’t use “gears” in the literal sense. They may have preset ratios, dumb ones that mimic a traditional geared auto, but they don’t have actual gears. They could preference lower ratios in “B”, but in driving two of these Toyota’s it doesn’t change forward ratios at all and only adds regen and engine braking on…

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I honestly thought the “B” mode was Toyota Hybrid only. I have two Toyota Hybrids, so I have used that in both, although in a limited capacity.

We will have to see what the incentive is. If it is beyond $7,500 off a lease, that is very troubling. If it is along the lines of the ‘24 discount, that is $14k in OEM contribution or over 15% discount on a brand new model that should have real demand.

Now, will they use the funds generated to make mass transit better or reduced remove fares? If they do either of those, it is a win. Otherwise, it is just a cash grab. 

Two Ssanyong’s in 5 years? Wow!!!

Good call, I vaguely remember reading about one of these before and your explanation was with it too.

Hmm, I didn’t know that the Trucks used actual geared transmissions, but i guess that makes sense for towing and hauling vs a CVT.

My wife has a ‘13 CT200h (Lexus Prius) and the “B” mode is definitely a higher regen mode. There may be some engine braking involved, but it doesn’t change the forward driving characteristics at all. My ‘07 Highlander Hybrid also has it and it acts the same as my wife’s car.

I can’t speak for Honda and I thought the “B” mode was a Toyota only thing for Hybrids. Maybe I am mistaken, but in my two Toyota Hybrids, it is really just a higher regen. The manual says so as well. So maybe it is both higher regen and engine braking? But being in “B” mode does not change forward driving at all in…

Interesting, I thought the “B” drive mode was only on Hybrids. Maybe I was a bit mistaken then. 

Yea, I pretty much never use it since I can just use my brakes as regen. It can be nice in traffic or if you are coming off the highway onto a road with a runway and a red light. But other than some limited uses, it isn’t worth it. Though I will say the “B” mode is not aggressive in it’s regen, just more than normal…

Yea, I guess so. 

It is fine to call in a drunk driver if you are also drunk, but maybe don’t stop and interact with the police that you just called if you are drunk? I mean, the better answer here is don’t drive drunk, but obviously this guy isn’t the sharpest tool in the box, but he might be the biggest. 

I’m sorry Colin, but you are wrong here. All Toyota Hybrids are CVT’s. The transmission can’t preference a higher or lower “gear” based on “D” or “B” selected during driving. The “B” is just a higher regeneration level when you let off the gas. Both my cars have it and they drive no different in either, but when you…

Yes, it is meant to be a higher regen setting. It isn’t the same as the old “L” on autos at all. Let us also remember, that all Toyota Hybrids are CVT, so they literally CAN’T preference a higher or lower gear in “D” or “B”.