I will never understand the drunk and angry on a plane thing. I just have a few drinks to be able to sleep or chill while in the air. Being an asshole doesn’t make it any better, but usually worse.

I don’t think the last two are warranty items, one is a prepaid maintenace plan, the other a service contract. Not sure on the contract one and what is included, but the maintenance plan can be an OK deal if you are planning on doing all your oil changes and stuff at the dealer and drive a decent amount. I wouldn’t…

Would agree it is an OK starting point. If they could do $14k USD, I think that is a solid price for both sides. I have no real interest in this car though, so there might be people out there willing to pay more.

I guess, it is all great until the OEM’s go the “dynamic pricing” Tesla route and decide what the baseline value of your car is. When you let retailers discount or markup it takes a bit of the sting out of prices changes, but when the OEM does it, it changes the actual value of the car. I think the OEM on a special…

I have thankfully seen some of these around my area, I just hope they get used.

To me, with it being dropped now means that a new generation would not be profitable. This thing sold 30% of all their car in 2024. I am sure it was profitable, but going forward, that doesn’t seem to be the case.

2003 I bought a 1986 MB 190E for $2,250 (if I remember correctly). Bought it from a local indy MB mechanic who had gotten it after the timing chain went. He redid it and sold it to me and I drove it for about 4 years until something else went with the fuel system that was going to cost a lot to fix, then I got rid of…

I voted NP, but after some BAT auction comps, I am going with ND. Hard to find ones with this low miles and the only one I did was from 4 years ago, but sold for $11k. Ones with 70-80k miles are selling sub $10k, not sure this is worth the extra $6k+ though.

50 in ‘89 is like 84-5 now, probably not buying another car, but also not that terribly old.

I didn’t realize there were any ports north of the BF bridge that could accommodate a supermax. Also, a bit confusing that it was leaving the Philly port and heading north? Why wouldn’t it just go south back to the bay/ocean?

Operating distribution channels isn’t cheap or easy. I don’t think many OEM’s would really want to undertake that part of the process at this point. It is one thing to start without dealers, but to have them and then get rid of them? 

Hard to tell really. Unless someone knows when heavy discounting started. I can get sales by day or month, but without discounting info, that is useless. I don’t think anyone steps into this space, it doesn’t make a ton of business sense unless you can do huge volume, which doesn’t seem to exist.

I think longer term, there will still be a few “bigger” auto shows. Maybe LA, Detroit, New York and Las Vegas. Then, it will really depend regionally/locally on the health of the shows. Where I am in the Mid-Atlantic, they are dying pretty quickly. There may only be a few left.

Not sure I would say “huge” impact on ICE, but maybe more than on EV’s depending on how the rules would be made. OEM’s have some production in Canada and Mexico, but usually just a model or two for each. Pretty much all the EV’s in the US will be assembled here for the most part in the coming future. 

Very hard to find comps and most of the manuals are older G37's. But I found a G37 6-speed with half the miles that sold for $18,250, but it was 2 years ago. I still think this car is $13-14k if someone really wanted it.

Fleet sales are generally very very slim profit margin. Sure, they may make some money on the sale, but it is nothing like a retail sale. You are correct though, I should have said “less profitable”. If a majority of a model’s sales are fleet, that isn’t a car the OEM wants to produce, especially once you look at R&D…

Yea, I would have to agree with all of this. The problem is when a new car is costing the same amount as what I would call a good used car and the new car is objectively bad it is a hard sell. The only saving grace is that new car finance is usually better. We bought my wife’s CT200 back in 2017 for like $18k (about…

At original MSRP there is a chance they were squeaking out a profit on the OEM and dealer side. But with $5,500 off? Depending on where that incentive money is coming from, someone is losing their shirt.

Exactly, percentages are great, until they aren’t. They always need a lot of context.

30k cars under $20k is not sustainable, hence why it no longer exists, and they have ground stock enough for another 4-6 months. It would cost too much to develop a replacement and sell them at that volume and price. There are some OEM’s out there in that range of US sales or less, but they are pretty much all selling …