What a weird collection of associate members. Tax collectors, the digital license plate people, UK driver and licensing agency, The Iowa tribe(?), random counties in the US, Google, Apple, Michelin, the US Governers association, Western Australia Department of Transportation, US Coast guard boating safety... It just…

F1 prices? Sure. 250GTO prices? No way in hell.

I am in Bmore, so I assume it is about the same. I haven’t been to a mechanic in a while, so a bit out of touch on that end. The problem is, they charge that door rate and then the techs don’t make anywhere near that unless you are a high level one. They will charge $200/hour rate and then have a lube tech making…

We are way beyond that point with backup cams, TPMS monitors and all the other mandated BS that any competent person can manage without help.

This! I already get wrong warnings from my front seat since when I take my kids to school I have a ton of stuff up there. Nothing like a constant dinging when it is just back packs and coats.

That’s why I pay my mechanic in beer and free TV. He usually gets the job done right too.

Yea, ok. That is what I thought. I just couldn’t remember which did what. I guess BMW is doing the “i” moniker and just keeping their 1-8 numbers. 

I get that, but it gives a precedent and with lease deals out there using a $17k residual in 27 months you already have a starting point. then add the fact that most EV’s depreciate way worse than they expect and my $15k number won’t be far off.

Yea, here in MD we are a ZEV state, so we get some oddball cars around too. Not sure I have ever seen a Focus EV though. Definitely have seen the eGolf and the 500e.

4th gear: You do know that you and Ford both have/will have Loans from the gov that you (and Ford) need to pay back, right? That is what a loan is.

Hot damn!

Yea, I mean the 2017-2019 versions are like $6k-13k, so in 27 months this thing will be maybe $15k, but probably closer to $10k? On the plus side, once these come off lease the older version will be worth so little, I may buy one just for fun!

Yea, possibly. But I would bet Fiat is throwing in some of that money too. Can only really happen in CO though. Looking at other dealers near me, the lease deal is no where near as good. $160-170/month with 10% down or about $3,400. Not sure who is taking that deal, but a mom at my kids school has one...

Yea, I was being a bit conservative since I haven’t been to a mechanic in quite some time. But have definitely seen at least $150/hour in the more recent past.

$140/hour labor? That is way cheap for a McClaren. Here in the Mid-Atlantic, any dealer for a normal car (Ford, Chevy, Toyota, Honda, etc..) is going to be around that or even more! I guess he has this done at an independent shop? 

They didn’t “give it away”. With a cap cost of $34k, fed incentives of $7,500, CO incentive of $5,000 and a residual of around $17k there is a dealer or OEM cash input of about $4,500 to get it to $0 down/monthly.

Is Audi moving to the “all the even numbers are EV’s” scheme? Or was that BMW or maybe both of them? The German lux brands naming schemes are so damn confusing and they change them so often it is insane.

The last generation of 500e is out there and they are dirt cheap. I can only find ‘17-’19 MY’s, so maybe that was the only years offered here and they range from $5k to $13k with reasonable mileage on them. This new one will be the same, even if it is a better version of the last generation. 

Ahh got ya. That is unfortunately a problem not of their own doing per se. But with MPG standards, they have to do some of that, just as all OEM’s have. I have an old ass Hybrid Highlander with 295k miles and the hybrid system is still OK, so I’m not too worried about that and I think they will get the rest of it…

Kind of off topic, but does anyone have any other car auction sites they can point me to other than BAT or Cars and Bids? Looking to buy something, but not sure what and BAT just gets priced up way to fast. CnB’s seems better on prices (AKA, not as crazy) but still a lot of eyes which lead to higher prices.