Talking about MSRP, not real world OTD pricing. I agree that the numbers kind of back up the price, but it is still a Cheby. 

We don’t know the real numbers here though. Rivian’s are pretty bad when you just look at gross profit without factoring in R&D and other costs and just get worse when you look at everything. Ford conveniently leaves out the Model E gross profit and margin, so who knows. I would bet it is in the negative $10k/car area…

This isn’t a TTV6 inherent issue though. The TTV6 Hybrid powertrains seem to be fine so far. This was just a bad process issue. Good on them for replacing all the engines, even ones with no failure shown yet, some of these have been in operation for almost 3 year now and even those people will get a free engine at no…

I just feel like it has gone way upmarket, especially in the Z06, E-Ray and now ZR-1 trims. The base starting at $70k seems like a solid deal for what you get, honestly. Just not sure a $110k to $200k ‘vette works in my brain right now. I know C7 Zr-1's were up there though.

That is true too, I also wonder how easy it is to get a “base” ‘vette. Like they show a $70k starting price, but can you actually order that?

I agree with you on that and not as easy to compare since I don’t think there was a C5 Zr-1, but what was the price delta between a base C5 and the Z06 and then a base C6 and the Zr-1 C6? I don’t think the Zr-1 C6 was 2x+ the cost of a base C6 and for the C5, was the zo6 1.5x expensive from the base so $65k? Maybe I…

But, do the companies have to provide them or are they purchased to be tested? I am talking about it as a cost of doing business as far as selling a car here in the US. We can let all the random low volume cars go, but if you sell more than 1k, you gotta make an extra 2-5 for crash testing on the company’s dime.

Yea, I guess so. I don’t fly a ton for work, mostly drive. So I try as hard as I can to keep all my rewards in one place so I can maybe eventually use them. So Mariott and Southwest are my go to, no matter where I am going.

Ahh got ya. I guess I am lucky on that end, I can turn in expense reports for all kinds of crazy stuff since I work at a relatively small private company. Nothing bad or anything like that and all business related, but my boss who is the owner is pretty lenient on that end. Some of the things he has told me to expense…

That is rough, I know in Philly in situations like this they would do a non-detain tow. Like just move your car, still puzzling as hell, but not as bad as having to pay to get your car back.

While it is arguably awesome, I feel like the C8 has done away with what a Corvette was supposed to be. I know the base C8 is like $70k, but the fact that the Zo6, E-Ray and now the ZR1 are all over $100k and the ZR-1 will probably be over $150k, just seems anti-corvette to me.

If you are flying for work, why wouldn’t you just pay for the priority boarding? I mean, when I fly for work, I just look at what flights are most convenient for me and outside of paying some exorbitant amount, I don’t really care what it costs to some extent. But if I can keep earning miles on one rewards account,…

This sounds like it is gonna stink. I liked it because I would just pay the extra few bucks to get A boarding and have my pick of seats. Was nice when you were flying with more people to. Since my parents are too cheap to pay the extra, I paid for ours and then we sat a kid at each window and my wife and I in the…

You just pay the extra $20 to get higher boarding, now it will be way worse than $20 for that extra legroom.

That is what I am thinking too. I feel like there should be a sales threshold or something. Once you sell over 100, 500 or 1000 (IDK the real number, just throwing out suggestions) of that vehicle you have to provide vehicles for crash testing?

Yea, that makes sense. Great point that she didn’t just come up with this on her own and there is a much bigger thing going on here. Hell, the orginal, “this is why it happened” story is proably all BS anyway. 

oof, car hell in a Jag. Just puffs of Lucas electrics and blow up engines, at least some of them look beautiful.

Marching on to the great racetrack (or parking lot) in the sky.

That may be the case and obviously outside forces like interest rates change that equation a bit too. But you are getting a lot more for your money on a $25k car than you did for a $10 or $15k car 20 or 30 years ago.

Yep, I did not include that part. But the car you can get for $15-20k today is way more “car” than what you got for $10-20k 20 years ago. We have also been saddled with a lot of required things on new cars which has brought the prices up too. There are also a lot of things that are now by default standard that didn’t…