I don’t see anything about criminal charge.

I don’t see anything about criminal charge.

Lemme get this straight. A car is part German though it’s made from German parts on an Austrian assembly line because a Japanese company had input on specs and spring rates????

A person will have many opportunities to purchase a truck, but few chances to recover surrendered dignity.

Can’t??? Are we sure?

Unfortunately your echo chamber has left you misinformed. It happens to all of us. It is good that you are here and available to hear that you may have been subject to inaccurate propaganda. Ignore the insults, but follow up on the corrections. Your preferred media lies to you, accept this, move on and become a…

So...You are in favor of campaign finance reform and disavow Citizens United?

Vanguard holds more stock than even Musk himself. More than half the company is held by institutional investors. About 46% is held by a mix of retail investors and public companies.

“While you might be thinking no American would be dumb enough to attempt something like this”

Most of us aren’t involved in setting fuel economy standards. Seeing 25 mpg on a monroney allows for very simple and quick calculations for consumers making purchases.

This is the important thing here.

Why does consumer joes misunderstanding of “twice as much” matter? That’s seems totally irrelevant. The car will get 30mpgs as advertised. The worst outcome in your scenario is that when he brags to his friends about “twice as much” one of them might say, “Yo, bud you’re off by .3 gallons.” Chances are no one will…

You are far less cynical than I am. The electorate typically eats what they’ve been fed and the regulatory bodies are ultimately controlled by the politicians who are ultimately controlled by whoever fills their campaign war chests.

The data contained in one provides the other.

I am not sure that MPG vs GPHM falls under manipulation. To me it’s two ways of measuring the same thing and since most consumers aren’t making fleet decisions, I don’t see it as concerning. The typical consumer is replacing one car, not trying to determine the relative impact of mileage on multiple cars. I would…

How important is it that consumers understand this anyway? How often is one confronted with “Man, I need to save some gas, should I replace my F3000 or my Camry?”

Sometimes this site makes me want to be mean.

Tanks come in many different sizes so that number would do nothing but inspire manufacturers to make tanks bigger.

I don’t do whatabouts. Whatever the board and shareholders did does not change Musks behavior or trustworthiness. Mentioning the shareholder revolt is not a counterpoint, it is a pointless redirection designed to dodge the actual argument.

I am going to hypothesize that once you reach moderate speeds the aero penalty eclipses any modest power gains. This will get worse as speeds increase making the mod progressively dumber.