Perhaps these will one day be seen as beautiful, but right now, they are simply too “jelly bean” to look like anything but a Ford Probe bastard child. Yes, I know the Probe came later.

One of the biggest crack pipes I’ve seen on Jalopnik. This isn’t worth $2,700, let alone $9,700!

You are supporting the useless destruction of a station wagon by linking to this bullshit!

External hinges? This and the Wrangler are the final holdouts.

Why not?

Y’all need to settle down a bit. This is “dealer cash” and may or may not be combined with other offers. Additionally, it should be looked at as a negotiation starting point - not a firm price.

Just because Tesla vehicles are priced like luxury vehicles does not mean they are actually luxury vehicles.

Make a small hole and spray a bunch of adhesive (I like 3M’s fabric adhesive) up there in a circle. Then press it to the roof. Your hole can be disguised by simply stretching the fabric. Repeat as needed.

Yes, but will it still be based on a Lotus (the 4 seat thing scream “Evora derivative) chassis?

At some point, the tech startups are going to have to realize that the only real way to disrupt the car business is to either partner up with an established manufacturer or buy an established manufacturer.

I never understood why they didn’t ship them with a bunch of panels underneath to create a flat bottom, marketing them as “full length skid plates.”

Bulk oil has been filtered and treated used oil for quite a while.

A great, and completely reversible way to update the V8 models is to borrow a steering wheel and the rear LEDs from an Exige or Elise, both of which can be yours for >$1000.

I have been down a similar road before.

...and you’re getting a Landcruiser with better interior materials, more body welds, but few of the modern (and breakable) whiz-bangs that are in newer Landcruisers/Lexus’

Have you sat in a Wrangler for a long time? The JK’s seats will make you want to get out and walk around every 3 hours anyway.

Death, taxes, and Jeep Wrangler/CJ owners bitching about how the new Jeep model spells the death of Jeep because it is too soft, conveniently ignoring the fact that each new model has been demonstrably better than the prior one off road and on road.

Your dealer is just trying to subtly push you into a new car. Our 99 V70R went to 285,000 on the original engine, transmission, AWD components, and turbos and a pristine interior.

A spare costs you money and performance every day in the form of lower mpgs and higher weight which impacts acceleration, braking, and handling.

Buy a used Ford Flex or V70R.