Better_red_than_dead
Better_red_than_dead
Better_red_than_dead

@miriam.heddy: Thanks for this! It's so refreshing to see a counter to the "disgust for fatness is innate and natural" argument I keep seeing pop up in this thread. (Which is *not* what the study actually is claiming if I'm reading it right.)

@Edie Spencer: Thanks for that. I think some commenters are reading the description of the study to suggest that "disgust=inborn emotion" and, therefore "okay" or "natural."

@Lipstick_Feminist: I don't think I was attacking. I think I'm asking questions about some of the language being used and the idea that someone should be disgusted by what other people do with their bodies.

@JinxyMcDeath: But why is it up to you —or anyone else—to decide what is an "appropriate" way for another person to treat his/her own body? That's what I think some folks are trying to understand.

@JinxyMcDeath: Except you care enough to be disgusted by people who you think "treat their bodies like shit." In that, you seem to be right in line with the people in the study. My point is, why care at all what another person does with/to their own body if their behavior doesn't impact you?

@JinxyMcDeath: Or, just maybe, we could try to challenge the idea that "disgust" is an appropriate feeling to apply to fellow human being whether they be obese, smokers or homeless people? (I'll allow politicians as a group I think it's healthy to judge with an amount of disgust.) And maybe we can challenge the idea

@EmpressZombie: His "Fresh Air" interview a while back revealed him to be incredibly smart and, yes, thoughtful. There's something "there" there.

@Alohamaid: They used to be, but I don't think LB is owned by Limited anymore.

@Katharsis: (Said in my best Shatner voice:) Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most...human.

Another report I read said he's also been kicked out of his home as a result of his stand and is living out of his car. Ugh.

@AnnaBanana: If by "interesting" you mean someone who unapologetically uses sexist stunts in order to promote her cause, then yes, she's interesting.

Oh Peta, you make my brain *hurt*.

AA sizes not only stop low, but run *way smaller* than most other places, in my experience.

Doing work (mostly) from home has instilled me with a never-ending ability to be surprised when I look down at myself around 5 o'clock and realize that I never made it out of my pajamas that day, and that I'm going on my third day of having not left the apartment. (Fresh air and sunshine are for wimps!)

100 percent horrible, fucked up, nasty, cruelty.

@RousseMacabre: I'd say anything with Vanessa Redgrave has to be at least 1% not awful.

@nyc-caribbean-ragazza: Except her most often repeated narrative is "I overcame my past and you can too." And she refuses to acknowledge luck had anything to do with it. (Literally, she's said many times she doesn't believe in luck.)

@nyc-caribbean-ragazza: Except that what Oprah peddles on her show is a really pernicious form of "bootstrapism"—i.e., I did it so why can't everybody else.

@Valkyrie607: Agreed. And the saddest part is that some of the things that the Obama administration is floating—like "revising" Miranda rights—is stuff that the hardliners in the Bush administration couldn't have gotten away with.