Yea I didn't realise she could be saved either, that's probably why I felt it so jarring at first.

Spoiler tag is further down. Also why are you clicking on a Deus Ex related post, especially one which would obviously raise plot points, when you haven't finished the game?

Not sure about that first bit.

It's not a fixed point.

But it's not out of nowhere, you play as him the whole game, so technically that's not Deus Ex Machina.

Nah, you can save the copter, I just failed. The spoiler is elsewhere in this thread, although again you can save the copter.

Yes, you can. I'm talking about when you don't.

I would have, but like you I was going stealth/tranc route and ran out of ammo, so I legged it :/


SPOILERS

If you don't save her she dies, and gets scavenged for parts, you see her lifeless body on an operating table and he doesn't say a damn thing, he just proceeds to the next room. Hell you can even loot an item from…

I'm just saying, choices through out the game should have effected it somehow.
Also, Deus Ex Machina is generally considered a bad plot device.

SPOILERS

If you don't save her she dies, and gets scavenged for parts, you see her lifeless body on an operating table and he doesn't say a damn thing, he just proceeds to the next room. Hell you can even loot an item from her. :(

I liked Deus Ex HR, but that different ending dependant on which button you pressed, kinda pissed me off.

Also, his (lack of) reaction to the Helicopter pilot after the copter gets destroyed was jarring.

I believe Nash/Tara put it best:
"JUST LOOK AT PORN!"

My friends getting one, and not once during any of this has his loyalty wavered. I don't get why people can't be loyal to quality as opposed to a brand name.

That would be the NES games... :P

It's a warp pipe...

Sounds kinda...Xanatos Gambit-y, maybe more of a Batman Gambit to me :/

"...the video-gamer stereotype, and over here, I think you'll like this, We have Neanderthal man hugging the last ever Panda"

The number if people who get Bust-a-Move confused with this never ceases to amaze.

Yea wish I still had one. Maybe i could build a wood shell for my C64...

They're the ones who requested the change in policy aren't they?