I hate everyone. WOMEN WANT WHAT THEY CONSENT TO. FIND OUT WHAT THAT IS. STOP READING SIGNALS.

Even if the movie doesn't get consent right, if he is a reasonably functional human being then it's vanishingly unlikely he saw a movie and thought, "Ah yes, that looks fun, I will now try it on another person without any kind of discussion first." That's just not how normal humans with reasonable mental capacities…

I kind of agree, but the problem with this argument that I see happening over and over is that a lot of people assume there's only every one, linear cause-and-effect style dynamic going on here. I don't for a moment think this guy or anyone else wakes up normal, sees FSOG and immediately turns into a violent rapist,…

This reminds me of the time I saw Lord of the Rings and then I started summoning giant walls of water to expel ring wraiths from Rivendell.

Well, no. That's the premise of BDSM in real-life practice, but in the book a lot of what happens to the main female character falls firmly into the realm of non-consensual sexual assault and rape.

He definitely did not get that idea from the movie. He wanted to do it, knew he was wrong and raped that girl because that's something HE wanted to do. This man can't use the legal defense, "oh, I saw this and wanted to try it...but you know...didn't want my partner to consent at all cuz that's how the book laid it…

I remember a classmate of mine didn't come to class for several weeks and it turned out she had been a victim of a serial rapist. One of our mutual friends described her experience with the words "assault does not begin to cover what he did to her." When I saw her after those weeks her face was still bruised. Those…

lol. Definitely rape apologists. Again, maybe I'm just being SUPER naive, but I really do think people can tell the difference between reality and fantasy, and fiction and non-fiction. If guys are actually confused about it, they're confused because they want to be and they want an excuse to act like monsters.…

But he then held her arms behind her back and sexually assaulted her as she continued to plead for him to stop, according to Karr.

I know I'm naive and I can be extraordinarily pollyanna sometimes, but I just don't believe that he got this from the film (or the books). I legit don't believe anyone is that stupid or that easy to influence. He probably said it was because of FS0G because he thought it would help him get off or get a lighter…

Yep. If they wanted to have sex with the acts described above, they STILL could have found a consenting participant. Those people exist!

This makes my heart so happy. I'll never see my rapist prosecuted, let alone sent to jail.

I know that there is still a huge debate (among some people at least) regarding whether rape is about sex vs. power. Is this finally going to be the case that puts that debate to rest?

YAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY......!!!!

Well, wasn't she dating him? I can't imagine how hard it must be to realize that someone you love, someone you trust, not only did something like this but then invited his friends to join and filmed it. That's a whole new level of fucked-up, and I don't blame her at all for not believing it at first; this is one of…

Think about the repercussions, though.

I hope this emboldens many more women (and men) to press charges in other cases, even in cases where they may have been chemically challenged. No one has the right to violate you, even and especially when you are impaired. Bravo.

What strikes me as odd is even the victim felt sympathetic for Vandenburg, until she actually saw the video. Like just having described what happened to her wasn't enough.

I hope they get the maximum sentence for every single count, to be served consecutively. Fucking scum.