They’ve had, what, two profitable QUARTERS since they were founded in 2003! That’s two profitable quarters in 16 years.

It might lend some additional credibility if you were to elaborate a little on who Evolve Automotive is. To the average person the name might sound like any rando tuner.

Yep, this exact situation occurred to me as the most likely cause.

Came here to say exactly this.

OR they changed the logging frequency AFTER via OTA update. Not a stretch to think someone in some software department would flip that switch without checking with the hardware side to make sure that the hardware could handle it.

I’m a little out of my depth here, but I wouldn’t put it past them to have changed the logging frequency AFTER they sent the car out the door.

+5 is technically a win, sure. But being down 35 lb-ft peak and likely significantly more across the rev range is a great equalizer for the extra 500 rpm you get from the Ford. All while still returning worse mileage.

Why do we care about displacement?

Please share the data you’re using to evaluate these things.

“So how did this happen?”

This is what all of us here do.

As long as it’s not a Jeep, I’m in too!

The V8 is actually lighter than the S54. But it doesn’t fit unless you want to completely redo the front frame rails. It doesn’t even fit in an E36 (and probably not an E46 either).

... AND avoid most (sometimes all!) other cars!

By “toyota wants to get the most out of the car that they can” do you mean “Toyota wants to sell the car at a high enough price that they can avoid selling it at a loss?”

Damn - I think the pictures are bad.

So let me get this straight...

I'm very pro - GM, and you still lost me at “Some people could see this as diluting the brand...”

Do you seriously not understand dilution?

I was at a conference yesterday, so I’m a day behind here.