Your comment certainly implied that viability should be taken into account when making decisions about the healthcare of a pregnant woman. Otherwise, why go out of your way to make a point about viability?

This, right here. Can't have it done. Heck, on top of the above listed, I was told I would have to write a paper on why I wanted it and see a counselor for a psych eval. Because only crazy women don't want to have babies, and also they're children who should have to do homework.

No. No no no no no. Granted, I'm a lawyer not a doctor, but I absolutely do not agree that delivery should be forced in order to prevent the death of a fetus if the mother does not want to deliver at that time or by that method.

I think it's important to know that they are referencing In re AC, a case in the 1980s that was later overruled by a higher court, which held that the the forced c-section violated the woman's right to refuse medical treatment and that the court that ordered the treatment was wrong. (Her family also sued the hospital,…

But in order for tubal ligations to be administered to women, doctors and insurance companies have to acknowledge that women have the right to make permanent decisions about their bodies. Most doctors refuse to perfrom tubal ligations on women who don't have children or are under a certain age. Which is fucking…

You're talking about viability, which has served (in the law) as a funny little side door into changing a woman's control over her body. That is what the original article in the NYT is about. People try to figure out when a fetus is viable because at that point, in the eyes of personhood laws, the fetus trumps…

Nope. It does not start before a baby is born. Don't pretend you speak for everybody.

I do not agree personhood starts before a baby is born. There is no "baby" to kill until it's born, it is a fetus, and fetuses don't have rights the same way any other nonviable mass of cells don't have rights. A perfectly objective line would be that a baby is a baby once it's an actual baby, by which I mean the…

I don't want to have children and I wish this was an option for me. Unfortunately, I'm only 26 and have to settle for an IUD.

while no one is going to agree on an exact time legal "personhood" should start, we can agree it starts before the baby is born.

I am not very much pro-choice. I am completely pro-choice. I don't think a woman should ever be forced to undergo a procedure that will likely kill her to safeguard a fetus. If it is out in the world, it is a child. If it is in a womb, it is a fetus. In my world view, woman will always trump fetus.

What is frustrating to me about this whole debacle is that, once again, a woman's issue is being reframed as a talk about men. Just paragraphs and paragraphs about men and who is harassing and their race and just every possible permutation of that and racism against men of color and white male privilege etc, etc.

I'm posting another story by special request from a few posters.

That's what happens when you encourage mimes, France. Everyone knows mimes are gateway entertainers.

Ignore him. He is obviously a troll. I am an actual former mercenary who has been deployed in several areas and it was always as a defensive/protection role, never a combat one. Mercenaries are hired to secure and protect areas in a conflict zone. We helped train local security forces and even offered self defence…

Ok, I'm gray, so perhaps nobody will see this, but I hope a few people do, because it's a true story and just about the scariest thing that has ever happened to me.

My mom and dad met at a Halloween dance at a community college in the mid '60s. Dad had come here on a student visa from the Phillipines a couple of years prior, and mom's family had moved to L.A. From Rhode Island that year. Dad was sporting long, slicked back hair, and wore a black leather trenchcoat, a white silk…

One of my friends asked me to go with her and a group of people to Hallowmeme in Brooklyn. I think I'm going to go as a confused cat against feminism, so unless there's a lot of progressive guys there, I can't imagine I'll find my future husband. *shrug*

I still remember watching the news when I was in college (studying journalism, no less) in the mid-90s, and one night seeing two back-to-back stories about teenage boys who had been arrested for unrelated crimes. They blurred the white boy's face. They didn't blur the black boy's face. Apparently privacy for minors is…