THANK you!

And Dworkin would likely have a lot to say about #metoo. If she criticized it, it would probably be for not going far enough. Which is all the more reason characterizing #metoo backlash as second wave is...let’s say inaccurate.

Millennials think they invented it. Like the internet.

Possibly. My line of thinking was this:

Yes, and so have older feminists, but they don’t get credit for it.

Well, in positive history of feminism news, my 9th grader is writing a research paper—the title, “Sojourner Truth and the birth od Intersectional Feminism.” I can’t even type it without tearing up, I’m so proud.

I don’t recognize the version of feminism that is getting characterized here as “liberal second-wave.” Katie Roiphe and women who pose as feminists like her are part of a Reagan era backlash against the struggles and successes of second-wave feminism, which was portrayed in the media as bra-burning, hairy-legged,…

Honestly, I don’t see where this article successfully demonstrates that this is a second-wave problem. I have a lot of problems with some of the second-wave spokeswomen, but Roiphe Jr., Merkin, or freaking Catherine Deneuve (??) are not them. If some of the real 2nd wave thought leaders have expressed that about…

I’m so not here for criticism of female critics of #metoo. I don’t think a single drop of ink should be used by a feminist website on articles telling the 2nd wave that they aren’t the right kind of feminist.

Because the article writer said this:

Way to throw the movement under the bus because Women who were never part of the movement are being predictably shitty.

I suspect this is related to anti-baby boomer sentiment.

Stassa, how old are you? Bc you have seriously confused your waves of feminism.

Thank you for having the energy to do this.

There is room for a nuanced discussion of #MeToo—its failures, sucesses, and potential futures; discussions that are free from accusations of “witch hunts” and “feminist hysteria.” But that complexity is not to be found in the embrace of liberal second-wave liberalism.

I have no idea what the feminist ideology that you’re critiquing here has to do with second wave feminism, other than you thinking “liberal” and “second wave” are synonymous, which is very odd considering that most feminists who feel their praxis is rooted in second-wave feminist philosophy these days (myself…

Brava!

Exactly. Katie Roiphe was detested by feminists when her stupid Morning After rape book came out. Also, her career began during the Third Wave in the 90s. This is like claiming Ivanka Trump as an example of Millennial Feminism.

I think I’ve been irritated with second wave feminists longer than half the staff of Jezebel has been alive. The people you are criticizing are not second wave feminists. I mean, really, what is this shit?

I really do find that idea of theirs that demanding not to get sexually harassed or worse as “self-imposed victimhood” of a negative context intolerable.