And the viability argument still stands. Absent government handouts, there's absolutely no way in hell that an MLS team purchases 15 acres of land in Queens, New York without having to shutter the doors immediately upon close of the deal.

Yes, well played. You make your points, dismiss all the others as bullshit, and claim victory. You're a clever one, indeed.

Ever single baseball team in MLB is profitable. Even when they try and pretend that amortizing players is a legitimate way to reflect asset values. What the hell are you talking about?

You couldn't even read a balance sheet you fucking twit. The argument's about how public dollars are wasted on MLS stadiums due to further reaching economic variables. Too fucking bad if your delicate little sensibilities are offended because soccer is and always will be a second rate sideshow.

I'd agree. The biggest albatross surrounding the NHL is the sheer length of the TV deal. If hockey becomes more irrelevant over time, it's really not enough to keep people interested in ownership...

If you were paying any attention to the original comment, the point I made was that in some sports, namely baseball and football, taxpayer dollars are a sound investment because of economic multipliers. They are leagues that can demand public dollars because the cities are so beholden to them for economic activity. …

Oh, so what you're saying is that MLS is a regional backwater sport? That's the point I was making. Building a stadium on public land in the middle of Queens, New York is not in any way indicative of viability. If it were, there wouldn't be a welfare handout in the form of a land swap. Sports that want to exist on…

I'm just curious how this new CBA solves the *actual* problems that hockey has? This entire league stands on the backs of ten teams. The rest are just welfare recipients on their death bed that the union is hell-bent on keeping alive. How long can a league survive when there are teams that are receiving more in…

What in the hell does somebody playing a game in a different league or in a different series have to do with the MLS season? They play in that other garbage because they have to. Cup play and the other series all exist because not one alone can survive a long enough season to keep anybody properly employed. That's…

I would say that no, in its current iteration, the NHL isn't viable. That's not news to anybody. Secondly, you can't compare the NBA and MLS. MLS plays a grand total of 323 games a season amongst all of their clubs. They do it in massive stadiums with cheap and free seats. The two aren't even remotely comparable.…

Um, yeah. Soccer's never had a problem finding kids to play it. Ever. It never will. Because it's a sport for losers whose parents don't want them to feel any failure. That's never going to change. What's also never going to change is the fact that bad little athletes who can run around a field and maybe be…

Which part of a clearly and admittedly out of balance land swap that ultimately amounts to welfare is *not* public money? Hmm? Explain that to me. Go beyond the emotions you hold for a sport that you have great memories of because any loser could play and receive blue kool-aid and orange slices at half-time, and…

You're an idiot that doesn't understand the argument. That's what I gleaned from your response. That's probably why you enjoy soccer, where everybody gets to feel like they've accomplished something by showing up. You don't get the same latitude around here. Next time read the post before you comment.

How about the fact that it's a sport that's stocked by a bunch of children whose yuppie parents think that the only thing more important than *them* telling their kids that there's no such thing as failure is an entire sport dedicated to allowing a bunch of losers to run roughshod through a field while never actually…

By virtue of pushing through an obviously out of scale land swap, that's precisely what they're doing. Thanks, though...

Things 'the MLS' isn't: viable. Clearly. That's why they want public money and significantly discounted real estate as evidenced by the land swap. Things civic politicians care about: nothing and their own legacy. Clearly. That's why this would even be allowed to take place. The land as a park is non-taxable and…

The unfortunate part is that it shouldn't have to be mentioned at all, but yeah, it goes for everybody. I think the point I'm trying to make here, though, is that at least the other sports have been proven viable. Well, except for Marlins baseball; that's still a wildcard. Regardless of the Marlins, however,…

You want to know something equally as unviable in the long-term? MLS. Unless MLS can come to the table with a business plan that doesn't require a dime of public money, they shouldn't be building brand new stadiums. If somebody won't bankroll the project as a viable investment, the public shouldn't be the lender of…

Probably just that they found her attractive and good in bed. There's no mystery as to the value of women most of the time. And most of the time correctly...

See, the issue here isn't necessarily that us white men are just oh-so-hard-done-by. It's that society, including women's expectations of what we are to provide and accomplish, haven't been adjusted downward to reflect the current state of how resources are ultimately distributed. I know it's easy to come down from…