Afrobean
Afrobean
Afrobean

Men make up about 50% of the population. They should not be wholly disregarded. They have some gender issues of their own, and if equality is to be achieved, they should be addressed as well, even if the issues may not be as extreme or as heinous as some of the ones women generally face. I don't think it's fair to

If asked point-blank, I'd probably say "I don't like the word because of its historic connotations as being for women-only and the fact that it's a very broad term that's easily misunderstood, but my ideology matches up pretty well with third wave feminism."

I just wanted to post saying how much I agree with you and to reiterate that it is incredibly asinine to get upset at someone fighting for equality and saying they are in favor of equality. They are in favor of equality and making an actual difference, how the hell can you be against that?

Aside from what Thrwwaway already replied with, there's also the problem that patriarchy hurts ALL PEOPLE not just women. Transgender people and men get hurt in unique ways as well because of their gender identity, and if feminism is interested in equality, then those issues should be considered as well.

who cares what they call themselves if they're legitimately "fighting for equal rights"

It's not just the media. It's also the toxic presence of certain idiots within the feminist movement.

Because feminism didn't start out as "gender equality for all". It started out as "Wow! Women are screwed, they need some basic human rights!" And then it turned into "Oh, we got some rights, but things still suck for women." And then it turned into "Institutionalized sexism is almost wiped out, maybe we should

The term "egalitarian" already exists. It's pretty common among people who reject "feminism" but are still legitimately interested in equality.

Because areas of feminism that SHOULD be welcoming men and men's issues are instead sometimes vilifying and rejecting men who are interested in gender equality. A Men's Rights Movement probably exists just because some feminists somewhere along the line did not make those men feel welcome to have their own gender

Yeah.

"from the other team"?

"Obamacare" is a LOT more complicated than those little bits you mentioned. There is a lot to disagree with in it and there is a MUCH better way of handling the idea of "universal" healthcare.

I don't know if I've ever seen a dictionary definition of "feminism" which said "equality for all genders". They're usually something along the line of "women's rights" or "equality for women".

Years ago, I argued that if the goal is truly equality, then "feminism" shouldn't be used due to the connotation that it is specifically interested in the "feminine" rather than all. If the goal is gender equality, a gender-neutral term should actually be used. There are inequities on all sides of the gender issue and

Republicans will be elected regardless of what any of us do. The government has this two-party system built in and because of that, there will always be Republicans getting elected.

Is that what you tell to people who would have voted for third party candidates, but didn't bother because they knew their candidate of choice would be lucky just to get THIRD PLACE?

Science has generally shown that there is no good advantage to fluoridating public water. It's not bad because "it's a violation of your body", it's bad because it's a waste of time, effort, and money.

Feminism is a broad social movement. You're right that it's a ship with no captain. However, it is not universally "simply a belief in equality". That is the general idea, but not everyone under the movement would agree with that simplified definition.

And what about the MRAs? There are legitimate gender issues that men specifically face, but anyone who wants to bring up those ideas risks getting labeled as an idiot/jerk/etc. due to being associated with the worst of that movement. It is entirely possible for the worst people of a movement to paint the entire group

I don't see the problem with someone identifying first-and-foremost as being in favor of equality. That's something we should all strive for.