4runner96
4Runner96
4runner96

Okay, well I owned a ‘90 with the double wishbones and the Fit felt like a notable downgrade.

My beef with the Fit is that it drove so much worse than the old doublewishbone Civics that it functionally replaced (size wise). We replaced our trusty/rusty 1990 Civic Wagon with a 2007 Fit and while the Fit was certainly a notable upgrade in NVH (kind of laughable considering what a tin can the Fit itself is) and

Out of curiosity, what is that special part of the brakes?

And as far as a turbo engine being less ‘raw’ than an NA engine, I wholeheartedly disagree with this statement as a whole, and not just pertaining to this Z.”

As it pertains to modern unmodified engines, and in regard to Nissan/Infinitis especially, I think it’s valid. I’ve experienced this particular twin turbo 3.0L

IMO going to the twin turbo engine is a step back in terms of engagement and “rawness”

This weird double-speak from the author is particularly strange, in light of the old NA engine having a 7500rpm redline:

90s Toyota exteriors/interiors wear like iron.  Rust free climate, even moreso

Honestly I consider myself a perfectly competent stick shift driver and have owned a whole range of them over the years (including my 2012 Civic, Ford Rangers, an Audi, etc) and I could never drive the Fit truly smoothly. It’s a decent city runabout and excels at that (minus finicky clutch), my folks use theirs as a

My buddy’s 200k mile 05 Camry with the 2.4 just lunched a headgasket (suspect headbolt issue).  Heck of a time to car shop.  He “lucked into” a local dealer receiving a new 2022 SE that he’s buying for MSRP.  Could do much worse than that these days.

Yup finding a base automatic RSX would be a good way to buy a less desirable (by enthusiasts) variant.  Good way to avoid the syncho issues that sometimes plagued that era of Honda manual.

The word is sort of out, like with Prizms before them. Especially in the African exporter community that snaps every Toyota based thing they can. They love those Matrixes/Vibes.

FWIW the shift and clutch in the Fits (atleast the 1st gen) leave a lot to be desired.  Easy to find gears but no weight to it at all.  Clutch is an on/off switch, hard to drive smooth.  Still beats the auto though.

Just watch out for 08-09 Toyota 2.4s (found in 2nd gen Matrix/Vibe and xB).

Spot on.  I see a car/motorcycle parked amidst a bunch of junk in a trashed yard, etc, I scroll right by the ad.  To say nothing of a flaming dumpster that is the E70 BMW parked in those environs.

Buying anything right now is painful.  But IMO out of all the options out there, biting the bullet on a new 4Runner at MSRP is probably one of the safest bets for a long term “buy and hold” type of car.  But personally I’m staying put.  We have a pair of middle-aged (2012 and 2016) family cars with plenty of good life

If there’s one thing in life you can bet on, it’s how well a Tahara-built Toyota will a) last and b) hold value. If you think there’ll be a “sunset” on gas engines within 5-7 years I dunno what to tell you except you’re nuts. In fact I’ll argue the opposite: simple, robust, repairable vehicles like this 4Runner will

I considered replacing a 3rd gen 4Runner with a final year stick shift Pro-4X Xterra.  The Xterra is a beast and no joke super fun even on the street, barking tires into 2nd gear with the stick shift and lusty VQ40.  But out on the highway man the Xterra was notably worse than even my ox-cart esque 3rd gen 4Runner. 

He also said “reliable” which IMO takes Bronco and Wrangler right out of the running.

He also said “reliable” which IMO takes Bronco and Wrangler right out of the running.

In real world use the Wrangler will get the same 20-22mpg on the highway as the 4Runner, from what I’ve seen.

Off-Road Capable.