Did you do any math, or just lie and pretend that those trucks meet the 2025 targets? They don’t even come close.

Sadly, yes, CAFE actually incentivizes crossovers. Europe directly taxes tailpipe emissions, so it incentivizes small efficient cars.  CAFE likely chose not to do that because they feared it would disproportionately affect poor people who required an SUV or pickup for their family or work. They thought they could…

Yeabut... ugly is usually universal. Take the current (see what I did there?) Prius, even those that love Prii know it’s painful to look at. Didto those that love Azteks (yes, they’re out there).

As road pizza stated, there is space between boring and horrendous looking cars. A space that many cars have managed to occupy for nearly 100 years.

Small cars would improve their fuel economy, but hurt their CAFE rating.

You DO understand that a vehicle can be interesting looking without being ugly, right?

Read up on the American auto industry and CAFE. The American OEMs generally lose money on small cars and only make them for CAFE compliance reasons. Back in the mid-2000s, Ford was losing $700 every time they sold a Focus, but they had to keep selling them to comply with CAFE. This is part of why small cars finally…

You missed the point entirely. Do more reading on the CAFE standards and how they apply to vehicles defined by the NHTSA as “non-passenger automobile.”

I would envision that this would be used not just against individuals, but against all vehicles in a particular area.

Perp on the loose, no driving
“VIP” in town, no driving
Bad weather, no driving
Your sorry asses aren’t walking enough, no driving.
Our transit system is not being used widely enough, no driving.

I’m sure…

That would NEVER HAPPEN!

Oh, wait...

I think it’s not a matter of “will they do it” but “how soon CAN they do it”.

Easier to be secret when the public can't see you physically though. It would be no problem for that transaction record to disappear.

They can’t. It would be classified by the NHTSA as a “passenger car” and would be subject to Obama’s impossible CAFE mpg standards.

Oh for fucks sake.

OH, FOR GOD’S SAKE.

1st Gear: U.S. Regulators Struggling To Decide If Authorities Should Be Able To Shut Off Self-Driving Cars

No, they would leverage it as widely as possible. Warrant out for you? They will setup a notification for your self driving car. Once it gets far enough from home, they’ll shut it down and come get you.

Yeah, I’ve been saying this is going to be a thing for a while now. Usually the response I get from users on this site is “That will never happen. No one is going to give them control of the cars. Stop being paranoid.”

Ha, I’ve been saying this for years. With current cars, you can go where you want when you want unless someone goes to the trouble to physically secure an area. Or maybe there is a cop standing there directing traffic.

What’s the laws for cops calling OnStar to shut down vehicles? Should be the same