I tend to think it's almost the opposite—once Tim had his own kid he cared a lot less about Paige. I mean, he still cares about her, but he's not going to risk his own family as much as he would have before.

LOL! Good point. But in this case I'm looking at patterns in the real world. The people using religion to set up a way to look at the world generally follow patterns that do have some internal logic, even if it's whacked. They have the way they think people should live and look to the religion or the Bible to back…

No, I think she was disgusted at the whole affair in the end. It wasn't about Philip, but Anna and herself.

I don't think she was disgusted wit him. I think she made herself do it and didn't feel heroic.

Very true. But then, Paige also only has to lie about her parents' secret while . Elizabeth's mother pressured her to abandon her entire identity and pretend to be some other woman with a fake husband in a foreign country. Which in probably inflicted just as much of a wound. (Particularly after Elizabeth was raped.)

Sorry, that's what I was trying to say. I don't think he's a teenager. I think he's an adult. And his foster family knows hes an adult so they just think he went away and it's okay. He's passing for someone younger than he is. There's nothing we've seen on the show that says he has to be an actual teenager. Makes far…

Nah. I never lived in yhe USSR and I never had that reaction either. It's not like they're never physically effectionate or have never hugged at all. Some scenes where people think they're terrible for not hugging her just seem arbitrary to me. Some of Americans are less touchy feely than others. Some even consider…

Yes, I've been a little surprised any time anyone has suggested this ceremony reveals them as less than atheist or think the ceremony would be meaningless to them because it's religious. Almost everything in it clearly symbolizes the commitment they're making to each other (the rings, the crowns, the stepping onto the…

I've always assumed that as well. It makes much more sense imo. And there's really nothing to suggest it's not true.

I don't think anything's changed for KS. He's there whenever they want to use him.

We've seen them use those fake rocks before. Presumably they can pick them up someplace empty just as someone from the Rezidentura picks them up when they're full. I think the rocks are what they use to communicate with the Rez directly.

I actually think one of the things about the Paige/Pastor Tim relationship is showing the contrast between him and family. His role as pastor/youth pastor mimicked parenting in the way pastoring does. He listened to her problems, she didn't see his—he seemed perfect. He guided her, she agreed with him on everything.…

I know you can, but it depends on how you're doing it and it doesn't really fit with the little snatched we've seen imo. A liberal would study the Bible as a looser outline pointing in the direction of morality and probably as a historical document with flaws. If you're a fundamentalist studying the Bible for the…

I'm not an expert on this, but to me something like Bible study especially seems like it would have to be conservative. At least if you're studying the Bible as an actual design for living, which is the way it seems to work at his church. Or even here, it seems interesting that he's on the one hand this very liberal…

I think there have been a few mentions of that, though not this direct. I always remember when Elizabeth was surprised when Philip told her that Stan told him he was having an affair. She asked him how he got Stan to tell him that and Philip said, "We're friends." Like in an unironic way. He didn't have to make him…

I was thinking about that and I feel like it ought to have been somewhat recent. First, if Paige had read something that was obviously from a long time ago she'd have more reason to think he might have changed his mind. Even Paige might consider that.

It is funny that PT keeps getting accused of perving on Paige or being a pedophile when she's a teenager and he's never done anything like that. The proselytizing isn't a metaphor for sex.

Sorry, I meant to include all the spying stuff when talking about how they were obviously worse. I get all that.

Makes sense—it's Philip's pov that's actually winning out little by little. He's the one leading in the marriage direction as well. Nice catch!

Oh, I agree that's what she was doing. I think it was a good idea. I just do think that they had taken seriously her originally summary of it as well. It just wasn't, as you said, the same thing as reading exactly what he wrote. That was a whole different level.