I think they've done plenty of squabbling. Or at least there were years there where most of their interaction was Paige bossing him around and telling him he was stupid and Henry ignoring her. The last time they interacted she scolded him for throwing out toast she would have eaten and he invited her to eat it out of…

Yes, definitely Elizabeth didn't even much like him before the start of the show. (No doubt she had come to like/love him in some way, but it was only in the pilot they started a relationship.) But I don't think anyone could say that this is a rift that's starting now. They've openly fought about this stuff,…

But of course!

Shouldn't he betray his parents first, though? Seems like you lose the name connection if he's just murdered.

They did have that discussion explicitly at least once. Elizabeth pointed out that Paige was meant to be like Martha—get a job at a good place, be herself, and pass info. Philip said that was the idea, but things always changed.

LOL! That would be great. Tuan and the Jennings somehow brought down by the villains from an 80s teen movie.

I thought in her head she was shutting her down at points, but the very fact that she was willing to sit there and say that she and Philip disagreed was walking back Philip's stance.

It's not the first time Elizabeth's pulled away from Philip when she's afraid of her own feelings making her not 100% loyal or is faced with a Centre authority figure who knows how easy it is to manipulate her into wanting to be the best girl in the class again. I think she obviously did believe Gabriel's comment…

I think it served Elizabeth's purpose, though. She wants Paige to follow in her footsteps. The story naturally makes Paige sympathetic to her and then she basically says that the correct way to respond is to be like Elizabeth.

Yeah, while I don't think Elizabeth was intentionally manipulating her like a source, she's used the story of her rape before in her work and she obviously knows that this is something that will draw Paige closer to her.

I don't think they're particularly hell bent. This is the routine of their job. If they've got anybody who's an insider in any Soviet organization (in this case I think TASS) they make an offer so they'll become an informant.

Yeah, it seems important that Claudia's basically always worked only on Elizabeth, who she sees as a mini-me.

It seemed like he was very young when his parents died. He was with his grandmother rather than in the field with them and he seemed to be bonding with Philip about growing up without a father.

Yeah, to me the scene seemed more like a betrayal, like now that Philip wasn't there Elizabeth would make her own nice relationship with the Centre, like she often did with Gabriel.

I didn't think Elizabeth was drawing lines at all. To me it played more like she was erasing the line that Philip tried to draw and inviting Claudia into her marriage and family again.

Totally agree about the Morozovs. They seem like easily the most interesting thing they've got going with Pasha and Tuan and the two parents but it feels like we don't get to spend any time with them. Or enough time. At least I don't. (I think Elizabeth's name as the stewardess is Dee maybe?)

Yeah, Elizabeth couldn't imagine a life without this. "Wouldn't it be great if nobody had to do this" is just another way of saying "Aren't we heroic for doing this." It's like the guy at EST said when she was there: You love your cage. Paige asked if she liked what she did and Elizabeth basically gave the same…

Yeah, I agree. Plus the whole "Philip defects" doesn't seem to take in the many difficulties of that happening. It sometimes reminds me of the episode of the office where Michael thinks declaring bankruptcy just means standing in a room and saying "I declare bankruptcy!" And while I can imagine Elizabeth accidentally…

Yes, I loved that it's not like Gus was suddenly a different guy. He was just as stammering etc., still basically asking her to take him back. But he knew the marriage line would change things up. But it also probably opens him up to show different parts of Gus's personality. (Interesting that Clark also had…

Yeah, I honestly don't think he's a sociopath at all. He's damaged and lonely and he's taking refuge in his job.