one doesn't have to "know" the car business. I am a consumer. My opinions are what matters. BTW the Toureg which the Porsche is based off if is the biggest piece of shit. Not sure how that would make the Porsche the best SUV. Besides, Porsche SUVs are about as attractive as copulating whales so even if they were good…

you basically wasted a whole day trying to make some point that wasn't asked for. My response was that I would enjoy taking a model a ( I do not own one) and do some ass whuppin at the track. Note I didn't specify what kind if track. As you agreed the model S will pretty much whip anything in the quarter mile. I even…

Thank you! ding ding ding! Yes indeed the Tesla Model S will pretty much beat anything in the quarter mile.. which was my point. All you guys have been doing is trying to turn that around and say- oh yeah? but in OTHER forms of racing it isn't as fast. That's called cherry picking an argument for the sake of trying to…

Answer this very basic question:

I responded with some actual links showing the S beating a number of cars that were on the above list. I feel like I am talking to a brick. Two can very easily play at this game, pulling up links here and there to prove a point. So put down the self-righteous nonsense.

Daewoos were sold in the US for a hot 2 seconds. They were perhaps the worst cars to grace the land other than maybe Yugo. I had a friend who bought a fully loaded Lanos off the lots and within 2 months it threw a rod through the block. In fact the engine was replaced. Twice. Then the plug was pulled, Daewoo went…

Possibly true. Did they sell the Chevy Cruz there? I was a lifelong Toyota guy but I drove a Cruz on a business trip and was impressed with the Cruz. Nice car for less than $20k. As far as cars Ford has far more European-friendly cars but mostly because Ford was smart enough to setup shop in the EU in 1914 and allow…

Me and my design group actually got Surface Pro 3's for free at a large event some time ago. I gave it a go. I've used both PCs and Macs for years and have no problem with either. But the Surface pro is not at all as easy to use as the Mac. The keypad is useless. Its a floppy thing you can't sit in your lap. The user…

GM screwed up big time in marketing Chevrolets in the EU when almost all of those were Daewoos with Chevy badges. The more or less polluted the brand's image. I recall we got some of those too, the WORST being the Aveo. Those are gone now. The Spark seems much better.

Not surprised. I remember years ago seeing a story about some sort of infamous Mercedes or BMW from WW2 that had been stored in a barn and at one point had been literally turned into a horse cart with nothing left but the body, the rear wheels and some of the interior. That thing went for half a million dollars.

You picked the very first link that comes up for track times ( I saw that one too ) and suddenly you're a genius. How about actually read some articles and tests? Like for instance here is a link showing yet again another Tesla beating yet another high end car, this time a AMG e63.

Why such drama for a car such as this? Even from seeing the silhouette it doesn't look all that different from the current model. Personally I'm not sure this was such a good car for the US market. They sell tons of these elsewhere in other countries but I swear I don't see that many around here in Cali anyway.

Nope. See my response above. You chose a single track. That does not make your point. But if you think you are right then good for you.

By showing one single track doesn't mean anything. Sorry.That's the problem with making absolute comments. Sorry to say that you did not prove your point and if you want to spend more of your time trying then be my guest.

What videos? Why the videos on Youtube, that's what. All you have to do is pull up the browser of your choice and spend about 2 minutes doing a search. This is getting beyond funny. Let me go ahead and paraphrase what the next response will be:

Do like I did. Google and Youtube are your friend. Plenty of videos showing these cars smoke hordes of other exotics quite easily.

Now you are simply using lots of generalization. The fact that there has been videos on this site showing the direct opposite of what you are saying more or less concluded this debate. But thanks for playing.

I just spent some time watching a horde of racing videos comparing the Model S to numerous other high end sports cars and sedans. In the vast majority the Model S handed the other car its lunch. On a few occasions the Model S got beat... but barely. I would suggest watching a few. The Model S basically sticks to the…

ooohhhhh! That was a good one. Keep em' coming...

What? So basically Porsche sells POS SUVs so they can make cars? that doesn't make sense.