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The last true muscle car? I could argue that the Tesla Model S is also a true muscle car and a great grand tourer. And remarkably, it’s coming up on eight years old.

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Kodak was making a ton of money too, right up until they weren’t.

Your post seemed reasonable until you got to the “three hours to charge” bit. A typical Supercharger stop should be about half an hour. When you have to lie about that and exaggerate it by 6X to make your point, then. . . maybe you don’t have any valid point.

Toyota’s best-selling car? Wildly popular?? I, uhh… I’m not sure I’ve ever actually seen a RAV4 on the road. Maybe it’s because of where I live, in rural, small-town Texas?

» Those will be fully electric, or fully electric with a small gasoline engine that’s there simply to help charge the batteries.

quote: I make it 1392 miles from MSP to Cambridge Bridge. I can “just” manage that in my Audi A8. How can you do that in one day in a Tesla?

“Innovation will naturally kill off the bad standards over time…”

As so often the case with articles on this subject, this piece conflates the low-speed, exterior, “safety” noise that is required by regulations with the interior “excitement” sounds that some manufacturers would like to pump into the cabin. These are two different issues, and I wish we could discuss them as two

Wait, wait, wait… Something here doesn’t make sense.

quote: “…given that it’s unlikely to get that much cheaper in the next decade or so…”

I don’t have anything *against* the C8, but it doesn’t seem all that relevant to me, and I feel like it’s been massively over-hyped. People are talking as if this was some kind of great new innovation from GM?

From where I sit the i3 and i8 were fantastic from every standpoint *except* product strategy. I mean, great engineering, great build quality, but it was like as soon as they got an electric powertrain BMW forgot everything they knew about what people want in a car. Or maybe these were just designed not to threaten

quote: “I recently drove 800 miles in one day…”

I’m sure there were people completely convinced that the automobile wasn’t going to be practical for most people, until it could “fit in the same neat box” as horses.

Uhh…  Sounds like somebody else woke up in the mid-2000s here.  We did get massive breakthroughs in battery chemistry.  Lithium-ion cells, you know?  That’s why you can now buy an electric car with 370 miles range instead of the roughly 40 miles that was typical with lead-acid.

Charging at home and never having to visit the gas station is pretty sweet. Also, instant exhilaration!

I have a diesel Grand Cherokee. I took a week-long road trip last year putting close to 3,000 miles on it, and it was completely comfortable, dependable, plenty of cargo space, lots of power. However... I wish I could strangle whoever designed the shifter or the entire infotainment system. It’s also frustrating to

I really don’t understand the whole “interior materials” thing. I’m not in the habit of cruising down the highway while fondling the rich corinthian leather and walnut burl, and I’m not sure why I would ever want to.

But the 40 year old Corvette looks so much cooler!  And you can always resto-mod it and make it perform.