Thanks man - they are good at different things

No, it doesn’t reduce the payment, but the Taycan does save us $400 because we were spending $400 a month on gas per car before we bought it, and since my charging is 100% free it makes a $1,700 payment extremely palatable for a $125k car. Most people I know with Taycans are paying over $2k.

I guess that depends if it was a $100k Model S or a $40k Model 3. I mean $1,000 is typically the standard lease payment on an $75k+ car.

2019 Range Rover HSE (full-size) and a month old 2022 Taycan (the gas savings on that one make it a $1,300 payment in reality)

Californians be like wut

Not surprising given how much more expensive cars are. They are likely high earners if they are getting approved for that in terms of both credit and debt:income ratio. We work hard and have a very comfortable income. Some friends with kids are shocked by our car payments being $1,400 and $1,700 a month, but to be…

How exactly do they categorize an SUV? Is a baby Mercedes GLA with an anemic Renault engine really more deadly than a large V8 Mercedes AMG S-Class in a small town center?

Don’t worry, the poours will be able to lease a base CLA or GLA with an illuminated Mercedes badge on the hood.

Enough drag to annoy Texas

Can we just collectively stop calling these SUVs and just call them cars? Since classically shaped hatchbacks, wagons and sedans are becoming a rarity these days, crossovers have just become the default shape of most cars. Like it or not, ask any kid to draw a “car” these days and it will likely be shaped like a crosso…

Good news is that neither are selling well at all - even in this market. In fact, the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer are quickly following the Nissan Armada and Infiniti QX80 as the full-size “premium” SUV du jour on the rental car lots. Every single one I’ve seen here in California has been a rental.

Debit cards? Stop being so poour!

It’s Florida. 

Reminds me of the Espace F1

Go big or go home! Coming in under budget at $56k, is this peach of 2016 full-size Range Rover with a silky delicious 5.0 V8. It has nice rims, light colored interior for the Florida sun, and looks the part in a fancy hotel valet or playing in the sand. And before you moan about unreliability, you already had a Ghibli…

That was smart of you to bury images of the front end deep in the article.

The assumption that the wealthy don’t care about running costs or mpg, is usually false - and typically the precise reason they are wealthy. The people that don’t care are the wannabe-rich paying mark-ups simply for bragging rights - or to be the first in their town to drive a Rivian.

I don’t understand all the hate for this. It’s a great EV alternative to basically any full-size SUV. So what if most owners won’t go off road, it certainly will keep air quality cleaner on the school run and in the Whole Foods parking lot than some gross 10 year old Tahoe.

And like most large French cars this will be bought by around 8 people, mostly French government officials, Peugeot employees, and will eventually end up as taxis in Paris and Marseille.

This. This is what it will look like. It’s literally been teased for months with spy shots galore.