Really? So you think the definition of a “fine” changes from country to country? Are you seriously telling me that you have a statute on the books where people who vandalize a bathroom and/or lie to the police are regularly charged $10,000? Cause if you do, then I will agree that it is a fine. Oh, and their passport…

You missed all my other points, particularly the part where the fine is supposed to be related to the damage caused by the crime. If you truly believe that there is a statutory scheme in Brazil where people who throw rocks at a gas station and lie to the police are regularly fined $10,000, then I will agree that it’s…

Yeah, because out of thousands of Americans down there, let’s pick out these assholes as representative of America.

No he’s not being fined. He’s being extorted. A fine is imposed pursuant to a legitimate statute, is reasonably related to the crime, and has a limit imposed by statute that is, again, related to the damage caused by the crime. You don’t impose a “fine” of $10,000 for the misdemeanor crime of causing a few hundred…

When did I ever even say that a robbery occurred? When did I ever use the term “abuse of authority” either? My point is simple - don’t pull a gun on someone unless your life is in danger. I don’t care if you’re a cop or a security guard, although you would hope both of those positions had better training than the…

Yeah, it was obviously an exaggeration. But the crime statistics aren’t great: https://www.osac.gov/pages/ContentR…

It doesn’t really matter. Don’t pull a gun on someone who is not threatening your life, no matter who you are.

Yeah, nobody would be surprised if this happened in the US. That’s why I said the cops must have been taking a lesson from their “US brethren.” But, in my opinion, the US is one of the most ridiculous countries when it comes to gun violence by cops.

As for his current star status, I had never even heard of this guy before this article.

His own friend was not believed by a jury of his peers. So, as someone who works with legal aid, I’m sure you realize that witnesses lie and are not always reliable. That’s why we have the jury process. So 12 people can make a determination as to guilt, taking all the evidence into account - including the friend’s…

What?! If true, who pulls a gun on people because they are trashing a bathroom? Sounds like the Brazilian cops may have been taking lessons from some of their US brethren.

Here’s the problem with your reasoning - he was tried and acquitted. And yet you still believe he is guilty. How is someone accused of rape ever supposed to show that they are innocent if not by going through the rigmarole of a trial? Are we to be believe that every person who has actually been acquitted of rape is a…

That’s an extremely difficult thing for someone to do against their spouse. Give me one example in history where a spouse has come out against his/her spouse when shit hit the fan like this. I have never seen it.

Who said Bill wasn’t a liar? It’s not always either or. He lied under oath. So did she. She filed an affidavit, which is notarized and under oath, saying he did not sexually assault her. So either she lied in the affidavit or she is lying now. Either way she is a liar. Which has no bearing on the fact that Bill is…

Off the top of my head - Sheridan and Jackson Hole.

They actually can’t. They can certainly try, but nobody can physically make you talk if you don’t want to talk. Tell you what, show me one example where a victim, in the preliminary stages of an investigation no less, had their passport confiscated and we can agree that the US justice system is similar.

Exactly.

Yeah, except here, the court did order that his passport be seized. So, that’s a little extreme and would not happen in the United States to a potential victim of crime. It’s a crazy reaction, one that has the sole purpose of trying to make Lochte look like a liar and the country look better. As for compelling a…

Because apparently they result to victim blaming when the cops can’t find any evidence. Can’t imagine why the cops and judge would not want the bad press of an Olympian being robbed at gunpoint. I’m sure they tried really hard to find evidence.

Zimmerman is an asshole who has proven it multiple times. He’s been in trouble multiple times with the law since the shooting, and then sold the gun he killed someone with in an auction. I don’t think it is fair to compare the two.