Of course he can work again - no one can stop him applying for jobs outside of comedy, or indeed from booking gigs in comedy (which he has continued to do).
Of course he can work again - no one can stop him applying for jobs outside of comedy, or indeed from booking gigs in comedy (which he has continued to do).
It’s not the length of time that he needs to stay away, it’s more the fact that he’s not remorseful. People who aren’t remorseful don’t care about whether or not something is wrong; they only care about if it met their needs. If people want to pay to hear his material, cool, whatever. But it won’t ever be like it was…
DING DING DING.
If I was a hiring manager at Applebee’s I’d turn him down flat. Waitresses don’t need a junior manager who corners them in the back office to jerk off and pulls strings to get them fired if they complain either. He’s actually not entitled to any form of work at all.
He admitted it, he went away for a bit and lost millions and a movie and while it may not be what some people wanted, it’s not nothing.
While Louis CK didn’t rape anyone or put his hands on them, what he did was still wrong in a BIG way. He shouldn’t work again until he has shown real remorse and made amends. He made his accusers out to be liars for the longest time until he was forced to admit that their accusations had merit. They lost jobs,…
Why do people only react like this when someone writes about sexual harassment and assault? When journalists cover any other crimes, the comment section isn’t filled with people screaming “At least he didn’t start a murder cult! “
You think the writer of the article needs to explain why pedophilia, rape, physical abuse, and kidnapping are objectively worse than masturbating for an unwilling audience, or else nobody will get it?
I'm saying that he paid nothing, and is worse now. By very few metrics has he paid anything at all really. He just thought people would have forgot by now.
Louis CK sexually harassed aspiring comedians. R. Kelly abused aspiring singers and dancers.
again, you like so many men (whether you are one or not) love to depend on phrases like ‘legal definition’ or ‘why didn’t she report it’ without acknowledging that the current court system is not set up to believe women or punish men.
I can’t control club owners, but I can protest and have my own opinion
except that, as has been proved and documented to death - there is no fair ‘formal manner - like court’ that currently works for women. Louie, and most abusers, are smart enough to do these things in settings where there are not witnesses. Why? because they know damned well what they do is unacceptable, so they do it…
Personally, I write from the assumption that Jezebel readers (and frankly all women) are smart enough to know “distinctions among a very broad spectrum of behaviours that range from shitty date/inappropriate to harassment to rape and kidnapping of minors.”
Oh, believe me, surgeons get EXACTLY that cover; the more specialized their field, the more outrageous they can be. It’s because when somebody needs a brain tumor removed there’s only a handful of people who can do it correctly and some of those know it’s Hobson’s choice for you: pick them to do it or die.
Thank you! So many people are quick to excuse the Ansari story and other incidents like it by arguing that it wasn’t illegal so it doesn’t count. Is this the highest standard we’re comfortable holding men to? That coercive, selfish and entitled behavior is fine as long as it’s legal?
Many years ago, I was working with a respected and successful Hollywood screenwriter; a true gentleman, whom I admired a great deal and whose professionalism was beyond reproach. He was a refined, bookish man who rarely traded in gossip or trade talk, but rather someone with whom you could have great conversation.…
I think it’s very, very difficult to be ‘ideologically pure’ in thought, word, and deed. Louis CK and R. Kelly were really easy for me to give up because I don’t like them. The NFL has been much, much harder, (particularly when the Vikings were a decent team). In my view, I make sacrifices and/or donations to try to…
It’s not the same as being harassed at your 9-5.
This is such a well written and absolutely important piece. I love the comparison between Louis CK harassing someone vs. Joe Schmoe doing the same at a normal 9-5, because you're right there is no difference- only in how some people perceive one as "work" but not the other.