I dig the Central Waters one too. A good example if you can find it. I don't know their distribution.

They used to (still?) had really good free jazz shows there, Broetzmann, Joe Mcphee, The Thing, SME. . . One of the best venues in Chicago for that stuff. Haven't been there in years unfortunately.

One of my favorite styles, but one I find less and less time for, mostly due to how varying in quality and taste they are outside a few great standbys. Like so many hard to brew styles, many breweries feel they just have to try their hand at them, and often with piss poor results. Less is better in my opinion. That…

This is so not a good idea.

woah, I didn't know that.

Yeah, I did that. I should've just erased my original comment. That said, I'm very amped for Hyams to be directing a film again.

oh, i read that wrong. he's just producing… i think.

Wait, when did John Hyams get ousted as the director? I could of sworn he was attached, which IMO is more exciting than Refn.

We exist (intelligent bm fans). Although if you frequent the NWN! boards, you might believe otherwise. Bogira, however, is just a world class, obsessive troll.

I think that's reasonable. I certainly engage with people mostly on the left (and that goes with people I know in metal). I'd gather that Bogira mostly associates with people of her stripe as well (but that's an assumption), which makes it even hollower when someone like her informs you that you are Nazi sympathizer…

Fwiw, I'm also a part of the scene. I feel no need to defend it or not, but she had absolutely no understanding of said scene, as you pointed out. It was a fatuous opinion that didn't actually mean anything. I think she knows that, but can't/is unwilling to admit it. It happens a lot I guess.

Oh, I think there a lot of people leading the way. I think that there isn't a strategic overall plan yet for where they're trying to lead however (unlike the civil rights movement of the 60s). There's a hell of lot energy right now on the left, but it's relatively aimless, and it's caught up in a lot of what you're…

Yeah, I'm not at all convinced she read any thing I wrote, but instead just said I was "circling the wagons," that is when she wasn't condescending to me or lashing out when I questioned her activist bonafides (ad hominem attacks, gasp!). She then accused me of making up my experience in activism, because I really…

I'm willing to accept the new definition of "racism," even if I don't understand the necessity of it exactly. I'm a white guy; if that really bothers me than that's really my problem. However, I do think it's a bizarre/quixotic desire to change these meanings. I agree, that I don't know how helpful it is to do so. …

Right, I read that too (stalker!), and she (I assume "she") likes to use it in arguments, so who knows. I think a lot of academics have an extremely dogmatic view point, and an inability to let go of their authority and listen or even engage meaningfully with plebs like us; it makes you question whether they…

I just saw this exchange after having an eerily similar one with this person. I don't know if she was confusing us, and other people or what. But it's obvious reading comprehension is not their strong suit or they're just an amazing troll.

I don't need to have the last word; I'm really not concerned with that, because I already feel just fine about where I stand and where you do (even if it's in bad faith). At this point I'm more fascinated by how willing you are to twist anything into a pretzel to fit your narrative by not actively engaging with…

You sure got the best of that back and forth.

Nah, it's not. And that makes sense that you would call me names you learned on the internet. I'm not on here all that often (lately I have been though due to work, and it's horrible; it's a mens room wall), because, I'm like out there in real life. Anyway, keep on keeping on.

ha, ok; I really don't think questioning if you'll be at a protest rather than just bloviating this shit out in a classroom is an ad hominem attack (although I guess it hit a sore spot), rather than honest question about your rhetoric; and frankly you were the only one using egregious ad hominems (Mr. Dog? Really?…