If you're not willing to listen to what feminists have to say, if you're not willing to grow up and stop looking at us as the enemy, that's on you. You're only proving my point that toxic masculinity won't change as long as men are expecting women to fix all their problems for them.

I said Scandinavia isn't perfect already. But they are far better than the US. It's not like I'm pulling this out of my ass. Every time countries are ranked by gender equality Scandinavian countries are clustered in the top ten.

I think this conversation is a little bit over your head. The position that feminism was only good in the past but now it's in danger of going too far is utterly simplistic. Equality is about more than just the right to vote and earn a paycheck.

When did I ever say men should be on their own? Did you miss how I wrote that I'm happy to be supportive and to be an ally? What I'm saying is that it's unfair to put the burden solely on feminists to fix men's problems. If men aren't willing to put in the work, there's not much I can do about fixing toxic…

Without touching your ridiculous argument that we're on our way to a capitalist matriarchy, I'll just say that I don't want a system that is skewed against men. I want a system that isn't skewed against anybody. Because capitalism requires a wealthy class and an underclass, equality and capitalism can never go…

I said this in another reply, but yeah, whenever harmful gender roles are discussed it always comes back to a criticism of feminism and its failure to completely change men. I don't know what we're supposed to do. When we try to speak with men who don't already identify as feminists about toxic masculinity even in…

Judging from a quick glance at your posting history you're probably offended by the very concept of feminism. I would say your assertion is more fitting of anti-feminists who expect women to fix all their problems and become enraged when women have other priorities besides boner pleasing and sandwich making.

You act like capitalism and communism are the only two options. Both are mid to late 19th century to early 20th century ideas. That said, just because early socialist thinkers were sexist doesn't mean socialism is inherently sexist. In fact all the socialists I've ever known were far more progressive when it comes…

Oh I agree. I don't think we should ignore toxic masculinity. I just don't think it should be all put on woman feminists to fix. It's not going to change until men want it to.

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I don't disagree with anything you said at all. But let's face it, when people talk about feminism needing to address the effects of patriarchy on men more, they're viewing feminists as woman. There's an underlying implication that lady problems are cute and all but we'll need to fix men's first. That expectation…

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Look at you making my point for me. What are you doing to fix toxic masculinity? Other than the important human rights work of internet posts asking feminists to fuck off and die?

Oh that's right. I guess I lost my pussy pass and need to get a new one.

That works so well. As does discussing bras. They think at first that bra talk will be sexy. Until you start discussing fit and where to shop. Once they realize bras are utilitarian it destroys the magic.

Seriously. Has there ever been a time in history in which the most common method of finding a partner was hitting on people on the street? Some people act like it's the basis of human civilization or something. It's truly baffling.

It also ignores the fact that not every woman has the time, money or physical capability to take a bunch of martial arts classes.

We are told by men when we are allowed to feel angry about sexism and when we aren't.

Feminism isn't monolithic. Not all types of feminism is rooted in capitalism. But yeah, some brands of feminism are like "Lean in" and unfortunately that's what gets the most mainstream attention and what causes a lot of people who don't identify as feminist to believe it's a movement for entitled upper class white…

I don't see the only choices as capitalism and communism. I also don't think getting rid of capitalism requires getting rid of representative democracy. I certainly don't have all the answers but when society encourages amassing power and money, it also encourages sexism, racism, classism etc. because the people…