Did you mean to reply to someone else? I never mentioned anything about breasts. I've only taken a class in classical Greek art and architecture which is why I noted elsewhere that I am no expert and only go by my enjoyment of visiting museums. I'm not sure where the hostility and condescension is coming from here.

Citation that isn't a shitty evo psych blog? Narrow hips are the reason childbirth is more dangerous for teenagers. The reason that women (even in non-industrialized areas) put on weight after giving birth is so that the next baby can be safely delivered at a higher birth weight.

When did I blame my feelings on the entirety of the opposite sex? I only said it's aggravating that body image wasn't considered an important issue until it started happening to men. I blame a culture that's still sexist and doesn't take women seriously. Nowhere did I say I blamed each individual man. For someone…

Yes I find Aaron Piersol hot. So what? Does that mean I only find Olympic swimmers attractive? Not at all. Actually, I'm not usually even into jocks. I've dated and hooked up with guys with a variety of body types including short and skinny, chubby, and stocky and yes, lean muscled. The only deal breakers for me…

It's only been in the last few years that beauty standards for men have started becoming unattainable. What do our great grandmothers have to do with this? This shift has happened in my lifetime. 10 years ago body image was an issue nobody took seriously because it was considered a women's issue. That's the point.…

Then why does pretty much every college have psychology, sociology, and anthropology departments? The notion that only "hard" science has any value at all is not edgy anymore. We've all heard it.

Since beauty standards change across time and place it is actually quite safe to say that culture does set beauty standards. People are social animals and even the most independent people are somewhat influenced by culture.

What are you talking about? I'm a feminist and I have never once thought to myself "this guy is so traditional and buys into the patriarchy!" because of it. I think that of men who expect women to be submissive Stepford wives (judging from your early post, that's you). I think that of men who view women as sexual…

Thank you! I was a away from kinja for awhile but I had the exact same thoughts.

Oh please do tell me what men I'm attracted to.

Because they ultimately find preserving their male privilege more important than having a fulfilling and guilt free sex life? Or maybe they're just afraid that the only circumstances in which they can are attract women are circumstances in which women must financially depend on men.

True. I specifically searched Google images for renaissance nudes because when people think of art in the middle ages that's what people tend to think of. I'm by no means an art history expert. I just like museums. From what I've seen, 13th century European art tends to be mostly religious with fewer depictions of…

Yeah, I feel guilty about the fact that I have more sympathy for women than men when it comes to body image issues. I'm just angry that is was considered a silly and shallow problem until it started happening to men. I think I have the right to be angry about that. Not only do I hate how my body looks, I hate that…

Citation needed.

It's so hilarious to me that body image is starting to be considered a serious problem now. Because now beauty standards for men are getting more rigid and unattainable just like our beauty standards have been since mass media came into existence. I remember not long ago having body image issues was considered a…

I agree with you that no one is entitled to be found attractive and that the real women have curves thing is terrible. I don't think that's what this post is. It's pointing out that beauty standards set by popular culture effect what people find beautiful.

If you look at renaissance nudes they're completely different than what it seen as beautiful today. There's more variety in body types presented as beautiful but one thing that they have in common is soft bellies. I'm not sure where you're seeing slender waists. The wasp waist corset style was actually more popular…

My weight has fluctuated a lot over the years. I've been skinny, chubby and everywhere in between. No matter what my weight is I've always had a curvy hourglass figure. I'll never be a waif, a pear or an apple. I hate the equation of curvy with fat. I hate real women have curves bs too. It leaves me unable to…

We all know a lot of people around here, trolls especially but some regulars too have a very white/western centric view of things. Pretty Japanese guys and their popularity with women don't count!

That's the whole point. Beauty standards effect attraction a lot of the time. People act like our beauty standards are natural but they change across time and culture. Media absolutely effects things. What's the logic in finding super thin more attractive than any other body type? There is none. It's just what…