Did many really loath it? I think there was a backlash from people who either didn't get it or couldn't ignore it's flaws, and lots of people seemed to want to let the world know it wasn't "all that", but I reckon you're very much not alone in appreciating it.....

Yeah, I just was pointing out what meatbag said out to you, but it seems like you've thought about it even more that I have.

hahah, no need to talk about unfair examples, I'm simply venting, not trying to prove a point or win an argument.....try and imagine me getting frustrated at the PC version (supposedly the 'better' version to look at and play) and then being forced to play the 'inferior' PS3 version with the echos of the conversation…

Isn't that somehting that might get your EA account banned?

Sorry dude, but I'm revisiting this discussion out of frustration , not petty vindictiveness. (hope you see it that way :P )

Oh I see what you mean. Funnily enough I bought a PC version too, but it was unplayable when I booted it up the first few times (unless I lowered the settings so much it looked worse than the PS3, and even then it lagged horribly online) - but I thought it was my PC that was the problem.

Nothing is "fundamentally" broken to me.

I agree. Training mode my ***.

You're not the only one....I haven't had any more connection problems than I had with BC2- which was minimal and not enough to bitch about on the slowest of online debate days....

I agree. The online connection issues seem to be too much of a theme in this "review". I haven't had enough problems for it to be one of the things I think about when telling my gaming mate (who reviews games so is waiting to get his free copy which is caught up in the mail) about the game.

You say that, but there a lot of games out there with reasonable fan bases that require more concentration, planning and thought than modern day shooters.....I reckon people who would like more cerebral/tactical shooters have simply been driven away....not that they don't' exist in decent numbers......

I wish I had the writer's problem.....

I guess appreciating Vimeo's "snobbishness" is a double edged sword. It's great until you fall on the wrong side of what they think is "cool".

"Everyone knows exactly how this game is going to play. It's going to play exactly like Uncharted 2, which played exactly like Uncharted 1."

I agree with the both of you.

I came all geared up to join the debate. (work is boring today)

Like many here I'm a little disappointed that the city choice is going to be a bit "samey" as cities that have gone before....imagine if they'd gone international to a Rio or Tokyo or something....

No, you have your analogy the wrong way round......this sounds like the food is as awesome as expected at this restaurant you went to because of the world famous great chef, and it was the front of house service that let you down .........

Yep, I'll play it because I paid for it, but see you on Wake Island.....and be nice to me if you're on the opposite team:)

I read it as they (DICE) are trying too hard to copy COD SP aspects and that's a bad thing because only COD does COD well......and when I mean "well" I mean I hate COD SP but that's what they do and they do it well....