It is no easier to recycle than to sell your used Sonos on Craiglist. It might be easier to resell if a recycler isn’t close to your home.

Yes, I understand that. I have 40 years in IT so I know that a simple designation like Core i5 is not enough. That said, my point stands. There are other similar (in specs and performance) machines for less.

My understanding is that this is part of the regulatory problem. The cost to get access to customers is expensive if you have to build out the whole network. Hence, why some people favor classifying ISPs as telcos so they can share poles and conduits and make the expansion less costly.

You could do that but look at it from a business standpoint. Why would you do that? You give a discount on a new product and you lose a sale of a new product to someone buying used from a recycler. Also, at some point those older products aren’t going to have resale value and may not work with the current Sonos…

I think you are missing the point. There is nothing stopping you from selling your unit on the used market. Second, according to other articles I have read Sonos will happily take the product back in leiu of taking it to a recycler. Third, you presume that these units are working properly and that is not necessarily…

What general area is this?

I’m sure there is enough greed to go around. LOL

Speakers can and do go bad but are not necessarily completely dead. The speakers cones can wear, crack or otherwise degrade so as to distort the sound. Button contacts can become intermittent causing crackling or static when playing or using the device. If it’s battery powered like the Sonos Move maybe the battery…

No doubt, more people seem to prefer on-demand deliver of content and that only requires an Internet connection. But I have to wonder when Comcast, et al, lose that TV revenue how will they make it up? I fear that because they have no competition in the ISP space they will simply jack up the Internet service prices.

I think it’s the younger generations, Millennials, Gen Z. It’s different today than it was 20 years ago. The young have always felt that the older generations weren’t in touch with “today’s issues”, that’s certainly not new. But whereas we spent the 60s, 70s, and 80s spreading the message of acceptance, tolerance and…

I see your point, which I am not disputing. I am just saying, relative to other channels, Fox and ESPN are in the most watched category. And to your point, many of the smaller stations (like the foreign language stations) are also subsidized by people who never watch them. That’s kind of the whole point to bundling.…

Cost transparency might help, but since Comcast (or your local cable co) makes the bundles I’m not so sure how much.

Please forgive me for my insolence. Alcohol may have been a factor. lol

I’m not debating that reuse is preferred, and you can easily do that by not using recycle mode on the speaker. But your assumption is that every speaker put into recycle mode is capable of being reused, which is not necessarily the case. Also, as I mentioned in a different post, I can see why Sonos or any manufacturer…

Coding is a viable occupation for the right person. Telling a middle-aged coal miner to learn to code is like telling a man in a wheel chair to stand up, oh wait, Biden did that too.

The article is a bit ambiguous as to what recycle mode actually does. They state that it “permanently blacklists a speaker from Sonos’s server. You know, bricking it.” If they are simply blocking it from connecting to the Sonos server then this is actually not “bricking”. The hardware would still be operational and…

I understand how recycle mode works. Which begs the question, why is someone recycling a perfectly good unit? If it works just factory reset and sell it.

Seems like it’s more about the greed of the recycler. He was mad because he couldn’t resell the units as used.

I feel their discontent is misplaced. First, the presumption is that all old Sonos devices will be in perfect working order or working enough to refurb them for resale. That won’t be the case in every situation. If the unit is working why are you recycling it in the first place? That’s on the customer, not Sonos.

You can factory reset your Sonos and wipe the data. I understand it’s a one way process, but I would hope that the recycle company or Sonos (they say you can send it to them) would recover/recycle whatever they could. Even if only a fraction of them could be recycled it’s still better than having the user just dump…