You’re splitting hairs. I’m still paying for it you dunce. And yes there are other programs in which we all share the cost because we see the overall benefit to society. Whether you have kids or not, having an educated society is good for us all.

Well, have there been ads for vaping targeted at kids? Here’s an article that will answer that question in the affirmative.

That’s true is one sense. But dabbing is not without its risk not to mention being stoned all the time isn’t conducive to being productive.

Did you just wake up? Ever heard of something called Obamacare? You know people are subsidized for being on Obamacare, right? We have 2 forms of socialized medicine between Obamacare and Medicare.

I’d  rather they not smoke at all. You don’t grow up wanting nicotine. You get that way after you start smoking and that habit can be broken. The point isn’t that kids will vape or even smoke, it’s whether we will just sit on the sidelines and do nothing about it as this article suggests.

Um wrong, you can regulate access to vaping material just like booze and guns. You cannot regulate what people do with guns, just like vaping.

Brilliant come back. Even if he isn’t a doctor I think he made some points, which you failed to respond to.

This argument is like the no-gun law argument. Since criminals don’t obey gun laws why bother with any new gun laws. Since teens don’t listen to adults and vape anyway why even bother to try and educate them on the dangers and actually give-a-shit about their health. Right?

Dude, they won’t listen. You are absolutely correct but they don’t care.

Agreed. Once upon a time Americans felt that you needed college to “get ahead” in the world. And that was true and still is true to some extent. However, if you want to make a good living you don’t necessarily need that diploma. There are skilled jobs, carpenter, plumber, electrician and so on that don’t require…

that now put modern listeners in mind not of outdated social mores, but, instead, of sexual assault

I think Washington State has something similar. I believe this is why it’s called Statutory Rape, which means there may have been “consent” but it’s still illegal.

Well to be fair, and not to validate the claims that the story is a lie, but you know as well as I do that underage people are “consenting” to sex every day. I think there is a huge difference when it’s consensual versus forced, regardless of the legal definition. The law is there to protect children and that is a…

Yes I read and responded to your posts. You, on the other hand, have not responded to my questions. You want to include suicides along with murders in conversations about gun control. Suicide and murder are drastically different events, one voluntary and one not, and you offer no differentiation on gun laws to prevent…

You don’t seem to understand that suicide is not caused by owning a gun. Half of all suicides in the US don’t involve guns. I’ll bet you 99% of all suicides in Japan don’t involve guns. That logic is ridiculous and easily proven wrong as I have already done. Please tell me how banning hi-cap magazines will prevent…

I didn’t say that nor did I imply that. But you tell me what law will stop people from killing themselves if they want to. So gun ownership is the primary reason people commit suicide? See how dumb that sounds?

I think we are all agreed on protesting violence and hate in all forms from anyone. It does achieve a certain effect but not necessarily the way we want to achieve it.

When you include suicide and accidental death the numbers do change. I’ve never said otherwise. But it is a false equivalency to include suicide with gun murders. You can read my response to another poster in which I show how suicide rate and gun ownership numbers do not track across the world. There are countries…

Yes I am not including suicides. Including suicides is an anti-gun tactic used to inflate gun deaths. However, when you look at gun ownership, gun laws and suicide rates around the world there is little consistency to make a declaration that more guns equal more suicide. Japan has virtually no civilian guns and a…

that make semi-automatic guns fully automatic