My wife has a mk4 TDI, and I have to say, it’s been an absolutely astounding car. I get the impression that the diesel models are kind of their own thing vs. the gassers, though. We’ve got 220k on ours, and it’s literally never stranded us, and has needed maybe $500 of work outside of regular maintenance and wear…

why in the hell are you using math examples showing a 72 month loan. 6 years to pay off a car? Am i the only one who thinks thats insane?

$300 OVER invoice? You should have jumped up and down and taken him right to the finance office. We all know those invoice numbers are as phony as a $3 bill. Shit, I just had a dealer show me the "invoice" on a car, and their price was actually already LOWER stating that with the rebates and crap, it comes out less.…

So it appears that you fall into the “high-profit, low satisfaction” camp?

Thank god the car salesman is going the way of the dodo. Nobody will miss experiencing your attitude as a hurdle to purchasing a car.

You are the reason people do not like car salesmen.

Your story would be a little better if you had seen him again. But you didn’t. You know why? Because someone else who wasn’t a dumb$@# sold him a car and made some money.

I also get a kick out of the customers who find out what invoice pricing is on a particular vehicle, then proceed to tell you what your fair profit is.

I don’t see his approach as being the slightest bit different than the typical dealership approach. It’s a war of information. In the past, dealerships have had all the information, and it was up to the buyer to wade through the arduous process of comparing prices, deciding what options were truly worth it to him, and…

You know a better sales person would of sold him a car....right? This cracks me up!

Well, fuck that customer - but you’re still a scumbag.

$300, plus your holdback though, right? Even at invoice, profit is already baked into the deal.

I used this strategy to sell my car actually to a dealer, but uh, with a reasonable 10% GP. Not under 1%. What an ass.

It’s clear you have a disdain for your customers, but this is exactly how I car shop. I know invoice, money factor, residual, etc. when I go in to lease a car. I won’t make the salesperson or the F&I guy a huge profit on my transaction, but I’m not going to play games or waste my time/their time. The first lease I…

You are the reason people hate dealerships.

Reason #1 I bought a Tesla: not dealing with this, right here.

Comedy. That’s exactly how I’ve purchased my last ... five? vehicles as well as two for friends. It doesn’t work on all stealerships but if you time it right, there’s going to be some desperate leech who will bite at invoice pricing or invoice + a pittance.

As annoying as guys like that are, I can’t wait until dealers disappear. The ultimate middle-men, and probably the most useless.