Yeah, Ms. Reptile and I experienced the same sticker shock on 3 row SUVs. So we dropped back to 2 rows and the kids might be a little squished in the back. We don’t go on long trips too often, and typically only with 4 people, so the third row was more of a want-to-have than a need.

Love the pissed off homeowner. Get off my lawn.

Don’t forget the Grey Poupon!

F.... Me. Those are some ugly ass wheels.

Wagon.

The right political and corporate wing were incredibly effective at framing any socialist perspective as an existential threat to our nation. So much so that even discussion of social welfare (in its broadest context) is met with a statement of “socialist” and chiding about a lack of patriotism. Their success is a…

I once bought monkfish from a “near the dock” fish supplier. Thought I got a deal - lower price than at the local market. Took it home to prep and found a number of worms. I pulled them, but it really diminished my enjoyment of the meal. I now have more respect my local fish counter and its supplier.

If you’ve got a few minutes, go check out the NYT opinion piece on communists in America. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/29/opinion/sunday/when-communism-inspired-americans.html?smid=fb-share

And not only sympathy for workers, but sympathy for immigrant workers. The protaganist is eastern european, coming to the US for a better life but finding that it really wasn’t. A big part of the story is lack of access to health care as well.

I get a Cruella de Vil vibe.

For jollies, where is that? I’m on the SF peninsula, land of Teslas, Leafs, Priusi, eGolfs and a few Volts. I’m curious as to where GM is selling a bunch of Bolts.

Yes, we do. And to do that, the AF, Navy, etc. have an army of 3rd party contractors to write the specs and evaluate the testing. If you’ve ever worked at a defense contractor, you’d find that the systems integrators (that’s what they were called on the programs I worked on) were incredibly aggressive on ensuring…

Any idea how much this would cost?

Can you give us an idea of the types of parts you make and what they’re used for? Are they design tools, prototypes, low volume production, .......

My (well, not mine, but a work acquaintance) Peugot experience. Engineer from Europe, settled in sunny SoCal. Wanted something different, European. Don’t know why he didn’t choose a Merc or Volvo. Orders a Peugot. After many months, it arrives at Port of LA, where he, wife and daughter proudly go to pick it up. They…

I’ve enjoyed the reasonable discussion. If only the big middle dominated the conversation, rather than the extremists. A toast to you.

I’m sure it wouldn’t work out the way either of us think - this is really a thought experiment. 

Also, all these jokes based on donor states etc based on the status quo - you lose half the country and expect all of your wealth generating companies to not move?

I think we have to identify and separate out the hard-core trump voters vs. the swing voters. The hard core voters are lost to us - they’re lost in their conservative radio bubble, so maybe 30-40% of those who voted.

You can lead a horse to water...... Seriously, if they don’t want to be helped, it’s on them. Those who perpetually vote against their self-interest deserve what they get. Perhaps it’s like the situation with alcoholics - they’ve got to hit rock bottom before they can get better.