So how is his camp going to deal with the accusations from women of colour? are they being racist too (somehow)?

Why is any PR group willing to work with him at this point? Surely the money isn’t worth the bad PR for your company.

How can you tell someone that they don’t live in a bubble when you’re outright saying that your need to be loud is all that matters and other people can fuck off? People in this thread sound like children.

I agree with you. To me it’s no different than hearing a baby cry and the parents do nothing but sit there and let it continue. And here’s the thing if the the employee’s ask to tone it down (not stop) be respectful to those around you—-why is that a problem.

Which would be fine, if the operators of the train agreed. But they didn't. They kicked these people off. So... Just because you think a wine train is a place to be as loud as you want, it doesn't magically make it so.

Ok so let me just end my part in this discussion with a quick example that hopefully all of you can understand (though some of you might need to calm the frick down for a hot minute).

I feel like possibly the worst part is that those who get disruptively loud and rowdy to the point of rudeness also tend to be out with similarly loud and obnoxious friends, and it almost becomes a competition between them to prove that they are the most fun/are having the most fun, or have the most important thing to…

If I went on a wine train I would expect it to be quiet and romantic or possibly educational if the point was that sommeliers were there pouring wine and telling you about the history of the region or something. You are welcome to enjoy yourself in public but if you are enjoying yourself so loudly and inconsiderately…

People are jumping all over you for this, but you are absolutely right. It’s not just laughter. Some people are just obnoxiously loud. If you have a group of obnoxiously loud people together and none of them are aware that they are obnoxiously loud, it causes a problem for all the other customers. Yes, even at bars.…

I can’t believe how people are piling on you for this innocuous comment. Jesus.

Making loud noises is being disruptive. They were on a train, not in a football stadium.

All the people who are calling you “buzzkill” for your opinion are just people who have been luckily enough to have never been around obnoxious and loud drunk strangers. Otherwise they would be on your side. Dear God, I’ve been to places where drunk people were so painfully loud that it was like standing next speakers…

Ladies and gentlemen, meet Exhibit A.

Big difference here: my preference to keep my conversation at my table. Your preference to make everyone else listen to yours at top volume, whether they like it or not. Can you guess what the difference is? Your prize is a big spoonful of peanut butter.

AMEN. I’m totally with you. A couple weeks ago my boyfriend and I were trying to have a romantic dinner at a Thai restaurant and a table of women were screaming - I guess technically laughing - and it was so annoying. It might as well have been an infant screaming at full volume.

Being disruptive is not very courteous.

I’m sorry, but people breaking out into loud laughter in small quarters is extremely irritating. One of my coworkers is constantly laughing loudly and I hate her for it. Not because I despise joy, but I despise her completely ruining my concentration and disrupting my phone calls.

I’ve read this story in a few places and I have to be honest. I am not a fan of large groups of people laughing loudly and disturbing everyone else. It’s just fuggin rude. It’s the same reason I despise Buffalo Wild Wings and frat boys. If I was on a wine tour, I would expect a somewhat tranquil and relaxed…

I had a feeling I’d be called a buzzkill for this. But that’s usually what happens when people are too self-centered to notice they’re disturbing others and someone dares to remind them they’re not in a bubble.

Don’t people feel ashamed any more. If people keep on coming to you to tone it down, shouldn’t it be clear enough to you that you are too loud?