I’m strictly talking about the 6MT but the CVT with the first gear is pretty good too.

Yeah, most people never pre-pay so they usually don’t have one. 

The Mazda hatch is even worse for that. It’s not a deal breaker for me but I can see where someone else wouldn’t care for it

That’s a good choice too! I only picked the Corolla to talk about in this thread because it’s been at least a decade since the name Corolla was associated with anything fun. 

Most of the time you lose discounts if you pay with cash. Tom has tons of articles on here about the vast benefits of financing a car versus paying cash, especially with rates this low. 

My vote as well!

Perfect daily runabout. People talk about how there’s no more good little cars and here one is. The Civic gets all the press but it’s a midsize now. This is a reliable, good looking, 170hp NA manual hatchback that briefly came in brown! This isn’t a hot hatch but this is a future classic; one that will have a whole…

The back looks like Ed

It’s for people that buy these jeans 

The people in charge of those decisions will still be multi millionaires at the end of this. They have no incentive to make things right.

I bet the Si will have the center exhaust. Something to make it more noticeably different than the sport

I looked at one before I bought my Niro. Drove ok but it wasn’t a lift back nor was its hybrid mpg anything special especially for the price.

Can confirm from growing up in rural Ohio. Rural Americans see almost some sort of nobility in starving or dying from their own poverty in order to “stop the [insert minority here] from taking over this country”

The best is when they have the company logo embedded in them. I love the little weird design trends on the standard commuter cars

The best term I heard to describe the BMW GTs are “Wagettes”

I’m waiting for a 2 door 3 series. No swooping roof of a 4 but I only want two doors.

Longer, lower, wider huh? Plus that ruby red? It's a Pontiac! 

The other big bummer is that Rapid Red is only available on the launch edition. They'll probably pull a Ranger and make it available in a few years.