lol throw your phone into the ocean if you’re big mad about China, bucko

That’ll teach those Russians!!

Wow, if you think that’s a Gish Gallop you’re pretty sheltered.

Also, a Gish Gallop generally isn’t addressing the opponent’s points one by one directly. That would kind of be the opposite; the thing that Duane Gish hoped no one would ever do.

I’d like to point out that even Utah is below replacement level now.

I am not certain that guaranteed high-power 24/7 ubiquitous electricity is a thing that can exist in a sustainable society.

A 1 child policy is unnecessary.

And there is a problem you have to contend with with increased efficiency:

And that wasn’t the only time such a phenomenon occurred:

The black death provided plenty of evidence.  Labor did very well for the next century or so.

Global fertility is dropping.  Fertility rates are dropping almost everywhere, and they’re below replacement in all developed countries.  Even without climate change, population decline is coming.

The one child policy was never universal. Ethnic minorities had higher limits. Many rural areas had higher or no limits. Foreign born children were exempt (which is one reason you had women coming from China to give birth in the US, usually LA, where there were (are?) clinics specializing in those patients). And of…

Do you actually live under a rock? Are you being held in a basement being fed strange cross-sections of news stories by a mad man? Do you have a head injury? What year do you think it is? Please seek help if possible.

Classic gish gallop, loading up with quotes and sources to make it more difficult to focus on any one point and to deflect from the weakness of their points. Half the shit they source refutes their own points or is completely irrelevant but you’d have to write up 4 times as much as them to actually cover all of their…

I confused. Do you agree that it’s about economics and that grid storage is a necessary part of renewables if we don’t want to keep using coal/gas to compensate for variability?

Everything here is just analysis after the fact, not evidence that the wealthy and powerful actively value a higher population, or make any effort to preserve the health and quantity of the population. All I’m seeing is regret that they couldn’t make as much money after they let the population decline. I’m not saying…

Only if you understand why what you’re suggesting is evil

You are operating under a lot of interesting assumptions. Why do you think renewables will never be enough? Why is nuclear power necessary? How do you propose a worldwide fertility policy could be agreed upon, much less enforced?

That’s not really true. Not everyone consumes equally, and resource consumption per person is not a fixed value. It can, and likely will decrease massively as economies decarbonize.

Of course. The rich will have places they can go and the poor can die.

Ah there it is. There’s nothing more evil than trying to pin the problems of the world on the poor, and thinking the solution is to take away the meager relief they receive in this country is just idiotic. How the hell would that help? What kind of stupid plan is it to make the poor more desperate?  Disgusting. Truly…

Lemme guess. The poor would be the ones to suffer. While the fortunes of the billionaires doubled during the pandemic the most vulnerable suffered more than they had since 2008 financial crisis. A crisis caused by....the wealthy.