Yeah, it is also a bit low for my taste. Interior looks fantastic, minus that sub taking 25 percent of the trunk space.

Trillions of miles of moose filled snowy wasteland, and Canada puts all of its dirty shit right near the border.

That mamma bear’s gotta think 'You got a bear cub. You got a responsibility.' If your bear cub gets stuck in a garage you don't just push the garage door open once or twice. You get your ass in that garage and you find that fucking bear cub.

Do people really pay for data on more than one device?

I wouldn't touch any of those, without a seriously illegal tip from a very connected insider.

P/E of 11.20; who is buying?

So MS domination would be a change, and change is good!

Healthy competition doesn't always equate to multiple companies with equal market share. In fact I can't think of any market segments that don't have a clear market leader (it is early). That is the nature of a market economy. Today someone is dominating, tomorrow someone else will.

Agreed.

That sounds awfully similar to your opinion, man. Maybe I just have a personal aversion to the snoozefest that is the ES.

Equinox?

That V6 is nice, but they have completely ruined it with the gearbox. The '11 that I drive regularly is always two gears ahead of where it should be. It really, really likes that green ECO light in the cluster.

Why I am proving anything about Buick? My comment was that the Lexus ES is the worst car still in production today. Prove that it is not the worst car produced today. Other than that I'm not really interested in opinion.

I've done a fair amount of driving in a '11 with 6k miles on the clock. It is quiet while driving straight at highway speeds in most conditions which is a prefect setting for the nap it is forcing you to take.

A (starting at) 37k midsize sedan is not competing against Benz' or BMWs midsize offering. I'd figure they give at least four shits about Buick.

Lexus ES

I recently returned from a trip to Italy. We start up north and ended up in Rome (about 1,200km total).

"Italian"

I might actually revisit the USS New Jersey if they would install something like this.

MediaFire is banned by my firewall overlords. Anyone willing to toss just the file on DropBox for me to download?