I personally know a girl who (at 16) got backstage at a NIN show in the 90s with the express purpose of fucking Reznor. She said he talked to her for awhile & signed her concert ticket, but that was it. She was bitterly disappointed, but I’d like to believe (we lost contact years ago) that she now sees that this was…

Sorry that this CHILD didn’t react in a logical way to being raped & threatened by one of her heroes. Almost as if CHILDREN act irrationally & should be protected.

Also Rob Zombie seems like he’s the ultimate super nice Wife Guy.

In a court of law, yes. In the court of public opinion? Not necessarily. The overwhelming majority of those who claim to have been raped are telling the truth. 

Hell, he hasn’t even lost the right to go about business as usual. All that’s happened is other people get to exercise their own rights to freedom of speech to discuss their opinions about him. Maybe he’s finding them uncomfortable. Maybe not. Who cares? His right to due process doesn’t mean everybody else has to like…

Except, there is no “process” here. There has to be a process, in order for it to be “due”.

ROFL. Who is stopping Marilyn Manson from speaking? Or you? Again, you would get a lot further with this stunningly silly argument if you dealt with actual constitutional injuries rather than some imagined harm. Marilyn Manson is still saying whatever he damn well pleases...he’s just facing some non-governmental…

You are not well-informed about sexual abuse (shocker). Many sexual abuse victims stay with/marry/remain friends with their abusers as a denial mechanism in order to convince themselves that they were not, in fact, abused. Try reading up on the psychology of abuse before making baseless declarations of what’s…

Victims don’t always react the way you might expect, and that goes double for victims of statutory rape. Children aren’t mature enough to consent to sex; that’s why we don’t allow it even when the children would appear to be willing participants. A child who says yes, even one who pursues an older partner, can still…

You’re right. Accusations are not proof.

Except Alice made some pretty good music.

Trent Reznor had a falling out with this guy. Probably because he’s a sociopath.

I wonder about the famous 70s groupies who were like 13/14 and still insist they were not taken advantage of. 

Hopefully all of them that groomed and raped kids.

The only thing missing is that you’re not a predator. It’s not about getting turned on by a physically young body (or they would be pedophiles), it’s about a person with a (mostly) adult body, but a young impressionable mind.

Look who it is, hello Manson

So many people are going to be so disappointed when this all eventually leads to Trent Reznor. And it does.

Can confirm. A friend of mine knows Cooper and his family. Apparently he’s a real gem. Lovely guy.

To be fair that could also describe Alice Cooper, who seems like a perfectly nice guy off stage. Too many people assumed the same about Warner, and were catastrophically wrong.

As a teen of the 90s, we staunchly defended this creep’s version of artistry. Just because someone had a violent, Satanic, stage persona did not make him a bad guy. We all felt so cool and grownup that we got this esoteric concept.