They are definitely large. I like the flex overall. But I don’t have kids so I can’t really say it is a great family hauler in that sense.

I’ve heard the opposite. Basically all I hear is there’s a reason the warranty is so good.

Because people are stuck in the “mah SUV” category and buy the Explorer which is better advertised and usually available on the lot to test drive.

Sedona is awful. Reliability is questionable too.

It’s a fucking video game.

Who cares? It’s right up there with Holden conversions on the SS. OP said it was bad because it was a LHD car with a RHD badge.

You’re splitting hairs because the Holden is RHD. The Astra was sold as both Vauxhall and Opel. So there’s no real “right” way to do this.

I’m sad that it ended up being such a true FCA product. Because I love how they look and I think they drive great and are decently built. But I’ll be damned if I’m spending most my time in a Fiat 500 loaner

Yeah I think it was 1500-4500? It depended on what you were buying. The whole program was a shit show.

It’s not even that it was a POS. It’s just so hilariously unreliable it embodies all the generic Italian issues. They actually aren’t awful to drive when running. If you could put a more reliable drivetrain in this with better electronics (i.e. Won’t let out the harness smoke) it’d be great.

It was more than a few hundred dollars. IIRC it was closer to 1500 in credit.

So tell me, is your golf on bags or race land coils?

For reference I’ve been to the event and been to other events in OC. There is way more people leaving bar tabs and damage than other events (like bike week or hot rod week, etc). It still happens. Don’t get me wrong. But it’s much worse when stance idiots are in town.

You’re right. That’s why I believe the people that have attended the show and others that live and work in the town.

This is definitely a cool man (or woman) cave decoration.

I’m over it. You can be wrong all day. Doesn’t mean anything to me. Just the chuckle I get from seeing uppity people like you crying when things don’t match your definition.

Which is idiotic. Because things like OCPD roll call have enabled a bunch of whiny stance kids to pass off lies and get people to believe them.

There is a lot of work that goes into organizing an official car show.

It’s not worth it to them. They have to pay overtime to the police, the hotels have to deal with drunk teenagers who think destroying someone else’s property is funny, and restaurants/bars that have people walk out on bar tabs.

The problem is the police aren’t just making it rain tickets. It’s usually people doing absolute dumb shit. They had to try and enforce the “md inspection law” because idiots were doing stupid shit like airing out and scraping down the road or were static and just doing that all the time. Or rolling coal (tdi…