But with scandal that is the point. Livia is annoying as hell and everybody on that show is bananas. After I figured out that there were no good guys I was cool. THat is why Poppa Pope is so cool.

But I think you need to show that it is a very emotionally taxing decision in some cases just like you have to show Olivia’s more pragmatic reckoning. I think a lot of pro-lifers think that an abortion for most people is as simple as ordering a coffee. Even if you are fine having an abortion the day of or the month of…

Cheers to that.

Nope it is all good in the hood...safety wise.

Not really.

I really think you are on to something. White people should not rap. Go back to singing country.

I lived that life. My mom was sick, dying and scared out of her mind because she had taken on the guardianship of my niece and nephew (each since birth). As her illness progressed and I was still the clueless jerk off of a co parent she took that crap out on me and said some things that could be considered abusive.…

If she has kids and gives up I would feel the same. This is not the 1960s or earlier. Women have a voice and choice. So I see that gender reversal crap you are doing but no thanks.

I totally understand where you are coming from but I think that by the time we got in on the action they were already knee deep in the raising of the children and the money wasn’t there. I think we look at her now and say you have all this money but at the time I think she was trying to look at the bottom line and it…

Being white in America is not enough. In order for white to mean anything it has to be wedged against something mostly minorities. There have been those types of whites that are complaining for years. Their voices are what stokes white privilege. They are the indentured slaves who knew that with a few more years they…

Who made both of them decide to have eight kids is the better question?

Yes because she has time to parent a 9th child.

Yeah and again 8 kids. My mom had two and we were spaced apart. She hated when we at anything with pancake syrup. So as soon we were finished she would attack us with wipes. I agree that Kate had issues though. I wonder what her childhood was like.

I always appreciated that Kate didn’t pretend to just love every minute of her life like all the other moms of mega families that TLC featured. Raising 8 kids, especially when 6 of them are sextuplets—sucks and she never pretended otherwise.

Please. Yeah they had loads of help. I have people who watch my kids too. Guess what, the majority of worry and work falls on me. And again, I just have two. Yes she was biatch but she was probably one when he met her. He decided to propose, he along with her decided to get married, use fertility drugs and have 8…

You can’t give up on parenting just because your feelings are hurt. Do the damn job. Kate had a system and he was always slow on the ball. With one kid that is fine but with 8 freaking kids no dude. Come up with a better system or fall in line.

I don’t know man. I just don’t like him or feel sorry for him. I don’t like Kate but I do feel her pain. Raising kids is tiring. I got trapped in the snow today but I still had to get my kid her baby sitter and get to work. I can't imagine if it felt like someone was working against me.

I actually agree with a lot of what you are saying. My connection with Kate is that I had had two children fall in my lap and became an instant mom (sister who couldn’t take care of her kids ) and I did not relate to talking to children as if they were unable to understand. Kate in her best moments role modeled for me…

We will have to disagree. Your grandfather being on the road did not allow your grandmother to depend on him. If he had been there getting in her way. She probably would have behaved different. Please tell me what Kate should have done? How should she have handled her frustration. I honestly don't like her but I don't…

If a man was taking care of 8 kids and his wife basically sat on her butt and did nothing to help I would feel the same way. When you can find that man let me know.